I've never seen this, it sounds like you have dynamic tone mapping on. You need to disable that when calibrating otherwise the TV is going to continuously tone map the test patterns.
HDR settings uniformity is much needed
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One of the many things I learned today about the HDR mess!
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But I thought NVIDIA added multi monitor support for RTX HDR 3 months ago!
NVIDIA App Beta Adds G-SYNC Controls, RTX HDR Multi-Monitor Support & More
The essential companion for PC gamers and creators is further enhanced by the addition of new features and user-requested options.
www.nvidia.com
It doesn’t help that this is never explained and it would require understanding a lot more about the HDR pipeline than 99% of people to learn about this lol. We really need more standardization and clarity on gaming HDR.
Frankly after reading about it for a while I still barely understand how all this interacts lol.
Android and Chome for what? This is misrepresenting. Android TV for Shield is just fine, providing HDR10/HDR10+/DolbyVision without issue. Chrome provides HDR10 on windows just devices just fine for YouTube, KODi, Netflix etc.
Yes, I've been using that with a second monitor attached for months. You may need to check your NVIDIA App version (which is different from the drivers and older NVIDIA App does not seem to auto update itself).
For example, On Google pixel 6 android 15, opening YouTube on Chrome would not have hdr, youTube app have hdr. For example
Android TV is just the OS branch (Android TV, Android watch wear thingy, android automotive, android phones and tablet).
Best OS level hdr experience by far is apple iPad Pro 2, iPhone and mbp. No user intervention required.
Windows is a disaster as always. I don’t envy anyone not into the AV hobby trying to navigate HDR on the PC. Compounded by game devs just making up hdr sliders and terminology on the fly. Good luck everyone.
Windows is a disaster as always. I don’t envy anyone not into the AV hobby trying to navigate HDR on the PC. Compounded by game devs just making up hdr sliders and terminology on the fly. Good luck everyone.
I don't think Windows is the problem here, nobody even implements the Windows HDR calibration data anyways, even first party MS games use the stupid sliders!
thanks! How do you do that? I am usually fiddling with the display settings but I don't see an option for that on my Samsung TV, nor on my monitor.
disabled the HDR on my 1440p 165Hz HDR 400 monitor. It has mediocre HDR but the SDR is really good.
Plus, I ordered a 360Hz Alienware AW2523HF monitor and it's also good at SDR. Dell is my favourite company since their customer service has been always really good to me, and I am going to use it both in SDR mode in a dual monitor setup.
I only enable HDR on my 4K TV, but I use it very little for gaming as of late.
HDR adds some extra input lag and a VRAM footprint,
so it's ok on my TV but not on the other displays which have higher refresh rates.
Plus, I ordered a 360Hz Alienware AW2523HF monitor and it's also good at SDR. Dell is my favourite company since their customer service has been always really good to me, and I am going to use it both in SDR mode in a dual monitor setup.
I only enable HDR on my 4K TV, but I use it very little for gaming as of late.
HDR adds some extra input lag and a VRAM footprint,
so it's ok on my TV but not on the other displays which have higher refresh rates.
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Great investigative work by Tim at Monitors Unboxed on QD-OLED panel dimming in HDR. He even taught the guys at TFTCentral a thing or two!
Still can’t wrap my head around HDR in games. My understanding is that Windows will tone map an SDR game when running in HDR mode such that the game is displayed in standard dynamic range and colors and therefore still look decent.
I tried this with Borderlands : ThePreSequel which to my knowledge doesn’t support HDR natively. Auto HDR and RTX HDR are disabled. However it was significantly brighter and colors were more saturated compared to disabling HDR in windows. What’s more is that enabling RTX HDR on top of that doesn’t change anything. It’s almost like AutoHDR is working even when it’s turned off. So confusing.
Is it expected that SDR games get brighter and more saturated without help from Auto HDR or RTX HDR?
I tried this with Borderlands : ThePreSequel which to my knowledge doesn’t support HDR natively. Auto HDR and RTX HDR are disabled. However it was significantly brighter and colors were more saturated compared to disabling HDR in windows. What’s more is that enabling RTX HDR on top of that doesn’t change anything. It’s almost like AutoHDR is working even when it’s turned off. So confusing.
Is it expected that SDR games get brighter and more saturated without help from Auto HDR or RTX HDR?
dunno how it works internally, but my Alienware AW2523HF displays SDR content by default but while not certified by VESA it also supports HDR.
I calibrated it using Rtings ICC colour profile file and their recommended settings, in SDR mode.
So yesterday, out of curiosity, I enabled Smart HDR on the display's menu and while I hadn't enabled HDR at all in Windows 11 yet, that change in the menu just modified my entire monitor data and ICC profile, including SDR.
Windows was still in SDR mode, so it should keep the Rtings profile enabled, but it didn't. It treated the monitor as it was an entirely new display.
I didn't bother and will never bother -I only use HDR on my TV where it's worth it-. Just disabled Smart HDR -it has very mediocre HDR- from the display's settings menu, saved some power consumption and then Windows automatically enabled again the Rtings ICC colour profil that I was using.
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HDR looks so good when it works though. I didn’t realize how flat SDR looks in comparison. I’m really questioning the need for super bright displays though. Even at 500 nits I find myself squinting at highlights. Can’t imagine why we need 1000 or god forbid 10000 nit monitors.
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