RDNA4

Seems doable if Intel is at 2.8. Remember RDNA3 clocks are “broken”.
Intel is at 2.4:

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We'll see how BMG will do on clocks soon.
 
AMD has announced that they are stepping out of the high-end GPU market in the RDNA4 generation, that is sure to put a damper on any hype-train.
I know that, but the thing is most customers don’t actually buy the high end stuff anyways so there’s plenty reason to be excited for all 3 IHVs. We just know nothing and there’s no hype behind any of it, even Nvidia.
 
Oh yes I remember now. Still hoping for a miracle.

I don't think anyone's hoping for a miracle. It likely to compete in the 5060 to 5070 ti range and if it manages to offer similar performance and/or more VRAM that is enough.

3.3-3.4 GHz sustained would be kind of one considering where RDNA3 is.
Seems doable if Intel is at 2.8. Remember RDNA3 clocks are “broken”.

Keep in mind even the 6nm N33 had a boost clock of up to 2755 mhz, somehow higher than the 5nm parts even. Not sure if the clocks are really "broken" or if there was a design bottleneck or whatever, but Strix Point with RDNA 3.5 showed an appreciable increase in perf and perf/W in particular.

Compared to RDNA 3, they should also have the benefits of N4P which should offer slightly higher performance/efficiency. So > 3 Ghz sustained is quite possible. We'll find out in a month anyway.
 
I know that, but the thing is most customers don’t actually buy the high end stuff anyways so there’s plenty reason to be excited for all 3 IHVs. We just know nothing and there’s no hype behind any of it, even Nvidia.
To be fair, most consumers don't buy AMD anyways (looking at Steam numbers)
 
3.3-3.4 GHz sustained would be kind of one considering where RDNA3 is.

RDNA3 do quite high sustained clocks... on some compute loads. It's clearly uneven, in that parts of the GPU can run much faster than other parts. I suspect that moving back to monolithic helps some, and presumably they have put a lot of work on the parts that were a problem with rdna3. And it's on a better process.

I think all of that combined at least keeps the hope alive. Though, AMD hype train has a long history of derailing.
 
I for one want to see updated RDNA4 cores in a mobile X3D processor part. Imagine the gaming laptop goodness with a lower core-count X3D part (say, single CCD six cores / twelve threads) and perhaps a 24CU RDNA4 chiplet. It wouldn't be a world beater, but it might be able to TDP out around 35W during gaming scenarios and compete well with like the NVIDIA 4060 mobile offerings.
 
I’d like a compelling software story with rdna4. Mantle 2.0 or something leading. I’d like a story about improving reliability in software and enabling new performance etc. AMD has great engineers but their launches always feel like they’re just playing catch up with better pricing. I think @RobertR1 is right, and a focus on that $400-500 range would be the best bet, but it has to be more than that. Rdna4 hopefully has some interesting story to tell about ray tracing, or work graphs. Some new vlkan or dx12 features that’ll be exciting for amd.
 

AMD Radeon 9000 Series SKUs​

  • AMD Radeon™ RX 9070 Series Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 9060 Series Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 9050 Series Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 9040 Series Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 9070 XT Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 9070M XT Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 9070 Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 9070M Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 9070S Graphics

AMD Radeon 8000S Series Integrated SKUs (Strix Halo)​

  • AMD Radeon™ RX 8060S Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 8050S Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 8040S Graphics

AMD Radeon 7000 Series SKUs​

  • AMD Radeon™ RX 7750 Series Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 7650 Series Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 7750S Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 7650 GRE Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 7650M XT Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 7650M Graphics
  • AMD Radeon™ RX 7650S Graphics


 
I think that rightmost column is mislabeled - that's not gain, that's relative performance to the 9700 9070 XT. As in, the 9700 9070 XT is the 100% watermark to compare against, and the example 7800XT is "only" 87.6% of the 9700 9070 XT's score.

edit: adjusted for AMD's proper naming strategy vs my strong desire to see the 9700 re-emerge...
 
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