CES for the gaming chips seems to be expected.
Oh ok. So Jan 2025
Yeah, they could probably launch some of them now but they seem to want as much 40-series stock cleared out as possible before the launch. Hopefully we’ll get at least one of the cards by end of January. Early word was they’d release the 5080 before the 5090, but unless it’s priced very competitively I’d think they’d want the halo card out first. In any case they’ll probably release within a few weeks of each other as usual - wouldn’t be surprised to see the rumored 5070 launch much later, in the spring. Of course political developments could affect all of this. I hope not but the possibility can’t be entirely discounted.
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NVIDIA "Blackwell" DGX B200 Listed, Prices Start At A Half A Million Dollars For The Top of The Line AI Hardware
NVIDIA's DGX B200 "Blackwell" AI server has witnessed its first apparent retail listing by the high-end server solution provider Broadberry
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Tkumpathenurple
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How well does it run Crysis though?
On a genuine note, why have they gone with Intel rather than AMD for the CPU? I thought AMD performed better these days?
On a genuine note, why have they gone with Intel rather than AMD for the CPU? I thought AMD performed better these days?
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How do Nvidia Blackwell GPUs train AI models with 4-bit math?
Bigger chips crunching smaller numbers.
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Could simply be a matter of timing, i.e. what was available earlier for qualification/validation. And anyway the CPU performance of these clusters is not relevant, the CPU is almost an accessory. They will likely qualify newer generation processors for third party servers in the coming quarters.
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Blackwell laptop designs are seemingly also launching at CES 25.
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Also apparently B300 is a thing now.
Press Center - NVIDIA Renames Blackwell Ultra to B300 Series; CoWoS-L Expected to See Growth by 2025, Says TrendForce | TrendForce - Market research, price trend of DRAM, NAND Flash, LEDs, TFT-LCD and green energy, PV
TrendForce reports that NVIDIA has recently rebranded all its Blackwell Ultra products to the B300 series. Looking ahead to 2025, NVIDIA plans to strategically promote the B300 and GB300 lines—which utilize CoWoS-L technology—thereby boosting the demand for advanced packaging solutions.
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Jensen confirmed there was a design flaw which caused low yields, but it's been now fixed
More Blackwell server announcements. No new architecture details. I wonder why Nvidia hasn’t shared any details of the SM configuration, cache or clocks.
Based on the limited information they’ve shared so far it’s hard to tell whether Blackwell is a further refinement of Volta/Ampere/Hopper or something more.
“The GB200 Grace Blackwell NVL4 Superchip integrates four NVIDIA NVLink-connected Blackwell GPUs unified with two Grace CPUs over NVLink-C2C, Buck said. It provides up to 2x performance for scientific computing, training and inference applications over the prior generation.
The GB200 NVL4 superchip will be available in the second half of 2025.”
Based on the limited information they’ve shared so far it’s hard to tell whether Blackwell is a further refinement of Volta/Ampere/Hopper or something more.
“The GB200 Grace Blackwell NVL4 Superchip integrates four NVIDIA NVLink-connected Blackwell GPUs unified with two Grace CPUs over NVLink-C2C, Buck said. It provides up to 2x performance for scientific computing, training and inference applications over the prior generation.
The GB200 NVL4 superchip will be available in the second half of 2025.”
DegustatoR
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They are waiting on gaming launch for that.
Not sure why they would wait on gaming to share specs of an HPC/AI chip. At Hopper launch they spilled all the beans.
DegustatoR
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Hopper is still Volta class, Blackwell is presumably different.
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gotta keep those costs to the consumer in control. There are upper limits on everything I suspect.
The rumours specs (all but confirmed) from the SKUs really makes me really wish 5080 was 5070 Ti (& GB203* being renamed into GB204), the 5070 Ti the 5070 and the 5070 the 5060 Ti etc.
*GB203 could've been a 128SM, 384 bit die and just below 500mm2 with a 24GB 5080 Ti & 20GB 5080 SKUs. But I suppose crazy AI demand makes Nvidia more desirable to just make a huge gap between GB202 & 203.
*GB203 could've been a 128SM, 384 bit die and just below 500mm2 with a 24GB 5080 Ti & 20GB 5080 SKUs. But I suppose crazy AI demand makes Nvidia more desirable to just make a huge gap between GB202 & 203.
DegustatoR
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You know nothing about prices or performance of these parts so what makes you wish them having different names now?
That would be nice but I wonder if the problem is that games just don’t scale with lots of SMs. AD102 has 80% more SMs than AD103. The 4090 has 60% more SMs than the 4080 but after all that the 4090 is only about 25% faster.
Would a 128 SM GB203 be much slower than the 5090?
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So the 5090 die is 20% larger than the 4090 die, bus is 512 bit with 32GB of VRAM, and PCIe 5, I am guessing this is going to be expensive as hell, hopefully with a performance uplift as impressive as the specs.