my 3080 is still playing everythign I throw at it. I may even be able to wait longerIf the 5080 is around 35% faster than a 4080 then that’ll make it probably 80% faster than my 3080 which is a nice upgrade depending on the price. Don’t care what the bus width is. If it’s faster it’s faster.
I just tried to watch this hardware unboxed video and off the rip it’s so dumb. Why does anyone care about tiers if the don’t work for the company? You have a product. Look at the alternatives and check if they’re better and if it’s worth the cost. If you don’t like it don’t buy it. Skip a generation if there’s nothing in your price range that’s worth it. Who cares about a product in some price tier you wouldn’t buy anyway. The only relevant comparison is to what you already own.
If price/performance stagnation continues, obviously the 3080 will be fine for a while longer. Games can't require $600+ GPUs for a decent experience.my 3080 is still playing everythign I throw at it. I may even be able to wait longer
Yep, and if you watch the MLID source video he clearly states that’s exactly what it is - speculation.That reads less like a rumor and more like random speculation.
I really have no idea what the point of that video was, other than trying to convince consumers they’re gonna be screwed by products which haven’t even been announced yet. Tim has some strange ideas about how product sales works.I honestly think this stuff is largely driven by FOMO or PCs as status symbols. Say I waited until 60x0 series to upgrade from my 3080. Well, maybe I look at the price and performance of a 6070 and it fits better into my budget and I get a performance boost that I think is acceptable. Why not? I don't care what model it is. I don't know why anyone does, other than personal feelings about not having the best. I'm currently looking at buying new speakers and there's no reality where I'd ever go back and do a historical analysis of price tiers and models to try to figure out if the model number of the speaker has changed relative to other models in a stack. It's just a completely absurd thing to do.
Devil’s advocate here - an alternative explanation is they do intend to price them high and don’t want sales dented by the last gen cards. Harder to sell a $1300 5080 with plentiful 4080 super supply. Same with 5090.These contradict the idea that 5080 and 5090 will be priced considerably differently to 4080S and 4090 a bit I'd say.
Hard to imagine big clock increases on such a similar node. I would guess that we either get a small performance jump or Nvidia has finally changed the architecture in more notable ways. I really hope we don’t just get frame gen with more generated frames.
Wouldn't work, people would just wait for a 5070 - which we all know is coming eventually.Devil’s advocate here - an alternative explanation is they do intend to price them high and don’t want sales dented by the last gen cards. Harder to sell a $1300 5080 with plentiful 4080 super supply. Same with 5090.
I don’t necessarily disagree, but I’m not sure I follow you given the price range you quote - earlier you said the EOL suggests a relatively close price but you quote up to $1,600. If they price the 5080 that high why would anyone buy one if there was still a 4080 Super widely available.Wouldn't work, people would just wait for a 5070 - which we all know is coming eventually.
If 5080 would be priced at 4090 levels then they wouldn't have EOLed 4080/S right now. Something like the original 4080 price is possible of course but then EOLing 4080S seems a bit premature.
I take these rumors as an indication that 5080 should land in $1000-1600 range at the very least. 5090 who knows, no ceiling on that one.
Because there are two scenarios:I don’t necessarily disagree, but I’m not sure I follow you given the price range you quote - earlier you said the EOL suggests a relatively close price but you quote up to $1,600.
Weird question. Performance and features, as usual.If they price the 5080 that high why would anyone buy one if there was still a 4080 Super widely available.
Well strictly speaking there is no ceiling on how high a GPU can be priced. Whether anyone would buy it at a very high price is a different matter.I do disagree that there’s no ceiling on the 5090 price, but I think that’ll boil down to a semantical different rather than a substantive one .
Rumors have said boosts are past 3Ghz, and panzerlied claims 5090 base clock is “nearly 2.9Ghz.” We don’t know what meaningful difference there is between 4N and 4NP, but it’s unlikely to account for that big of an increase (if true).Hard to imagine big clock increases on such a similar node. I would guess that we either get a small performance jump or Nvidia has finally changed the architecture in more notable ways. I really hope we don’t just get frame gen with more generated frames.
I didn’t mean that comment literally, but I really think they’d have a hard time moving a $1600 5080 if there was still lots of 4080 Super stock. Unless DLSS 4 has a truly killer feature that’s Blackwell exclusive.Weird question. Performance and features, as usual.
I didn’t mean that literally, but I really think they’d have a hard time moving a $1600 5080 if there was still lots of 4080 Super stock.
That’s my concern - I’m not saying I think that’s likely what the EOL means, just that I kinda see it as a possibility.I suppose there’s another option where Nvidia thinks the 4090 is too good of a deal and the 50 series will be worse bang for the buck.
True, though the 5090 is not unique in that respect . Appreciate your responses to my earlier comments, thanks.Well strictly speaking there is no ceiling on how high a GPU can be priced. Whether anyone would buy it at a very high price is a different matter.
If price/performance stagnation continues, obviously the 3080 will be fine for a while longer. Games can't require $600+ GPUs for a decent experience.
Only problem you may run into is VRAM capacity (which is why bus width actually does matter until the 3GB GDDR7 modules arrive).
yea I may get a 5070 or amd equivalent just to bring down the card size and power requirements.If price/performance stagnation continues, obviously the 3080 will be fine for a while longer. Games can't require $600+ GPUs for a decent experience.
Only problem you may run into is VRAM capacity (which is why bus width actually does matter until the 3GB GDDR7 modules arrive).
Jensen Huang will deliver the CES keynote: https://www.ces.tech/press-releases/nvidia-ceo-jensen-huang-to-deliver-ces-2025-keynote/
Cant remember the last time he has done a keynote at CES. So maybe we will see the consumer Blackwell products.
I'll definitely wait at least until an 18GB 5070 Super or something. Not getting another 12GB card. It's already been a bit of a problem in a couple games I've played.yea I may get a 5070 or amd equivalent just to bring down the card size and power requirements.