Zenimax vs Oculus Lawsuit

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  1. Ike Turner

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    They allegedly already paid for most of it but one payement remains unpaid to Carmack. I wouldn't be surprised if Zenimax decided to halt the payements when the whole thing went down (discovering that Carmarck stole/copied all that stuff when he quit to Oculus) which is normal in such cases to wait until the trial is done. Now that it's finished (well not really because Zenimax filled an injunction afterwards) and Zenimax is probably taking its sweet time to act on this matter thus Carmack is now filling his suit (I guess that he would have done it earlier if he wasn't accused to stealing his employer..).
     
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    Zenimax vs oculus law suite seems to have reached conclusion. I wonder if this settles everything or if for example carmack's case is still in process?

    https://uploadvr.com/facebooks-zenimax-lawsuit-payout-halved-to-250-million/
     
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    Regardless of how facebook's lawyers want to spin it, It's still a ruling that declares Oculus/Facebook as guilty.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the biggest factor for bringing the payment down was a slower than expected adoption rate for VR in general.
     
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    I guess this doesn't help either, losing 250m just like that.
     
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    It's still not over. Facebook is going to appeal the ruling. The judge also threw out yet another claim by Bethesda, so Bethesda's original lawsuit is now but a shadow of what they tried to sue Facebook for.

    In the original ruling the Jury determined that Facebook was innocent of stealing trade secrets. That was the big one that Zenimax was hoping for and was key to their whole lawsuit.

    The original 500 million USD ruling was only for violation of NDA and lying. That's what the current verdict reduces as the judge states that Bethesda hasn't presented enough evidence to determine damages suffered.

    Damages for the original verdict.
    • 200 million USD for violating NDA contract.
    • 50 million USD for copyright infringement
    • 50 million USD for false designation (Oculus)
    • 150 million USD for false designation (Brendan Iribe)
    • 50 million USD for false designation (Palmer Luckey)
    • Opened potential for Zenimax to have sales of Oculus Rift blocked.
    Damages after current verdict.
    • 200 million USD for violating NDA contract.
    • 50 million USD for copyright infringement.
    The current verdict also denies the sales injunction that Zenimax was seeking.

    So, from the original over 4 billion USD lawsuit that Zenimax brought to court, they are now down to 250 million USD.

    Looking back over the original Jury Verdict papers

    https://www.scribd.com/document/338147994/Ruling-in-Zenimax-vs-Facebook-s-Oculus

    Interesting how many of the claims Zenimax made that the Jury threw out.

    Regards,
    SB
     
    #26 Silent_Buddha, Jul 3, 2018
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