Yamauchi on the PS3: "...beginning of a new world..."

[PARANOiA]

But he didn't say that so your point is moot.

Mcmas, I try to take you seriously. When you are 75% objective, your opinion matters. Right now you're wearing a big red "I love Sony" badge. If the above quote came from, say, Major Nelson, I would bet you $100 you would not defend it. That, to me, shows me you cannot have a fair opinion on anything here.

To clarify, he claimed that the Playstation3 is "the first piece of hardware allowing photo-realistic computer graphics". That is entirely comical. He thinks:

• That we'll have photorealism this gen, which will not happen. If you believe it will, please put forward a case, otherwise I'll assume it won't. (And don't ask me to prove while it won't happen - that's like asking me to prove fairies don't exist in the North Pole when no one is watching. I can't, but it doesn't mean they're there)
• That the PS3 is the first machine that can bring photorealism - meaning it's the most advanced graphics system in the world today. More than all of Hollywood's CG labs, even. And they'll put it in your home, too!

This guy is just giving Sony they're required publicity, talking shit, while people who love Sony defend it. Unbelievable how people are so loyal to a fucking GAME COMPANY!

Really gets on my goat!

 

[Azrael]

How does that help? What's the point?

If you don't know, I'm not gonna tell you.

I realize you WANT to believe any positive Sony PR/Hype/News and that's your choice. I just wouldn't recommend it.

 

[randycat99]

There are those that protest a bit too strongly, as well. That can be just as incriminating.

 

[PARANOiA]

There are those that protest a bit too strongly, as well. That can be just as incriminating.

Only if those people swallow the shit from the other side I will buy a PS3 and not an X360, but I hate hate hate all the lies that happen here - moreso when rich kids from the suburbs sit there and say, "he's right you know!" (because clearly the above *will happen*)

 

[mckmas8808]

Mcmas, I try to take you seriously. When you are 75% objective, your opinion matters. Right now you're wearing a big red "I love Sony" badge. If the above quote came from, say, Major Nelson, I would bet you $100 you would not defend it. That, to me, shows me you cannot have a fair opinion on anything here.

To clarify, he claimed that the Playstation3 is "the first piece of hardware allowing photo-realistic computer graphics". That is entirely comical. He thinks:

• That we'll have photorealism this gen, which will not happen. If you believe it will, please put forward a case, otherwise I'll assume it won't. (And don't ask me to prove while it won't happen - that's like asking me to prove fairies don't exist in the North Pole when no one is watching. I can't, but it doesn't mean they're there)
• That the PS3 is the first machine that can bring photorealism - meaning it's the most advanced graphics system in the world today. More than all of Hollywood's CG labs, even. And they'll put it in your home, too!

This guy is just giving Sony they're required publicity, talking shit, while people who love Sony defend it. Unbelievable how people are so loyal to a fucking GAME COMPANY!

Really gets on my goat!

PARANOiA calm down a little man it's cool. I know we won't have photorealistic games next-gen. I know this. My response was to your quote and your quote only. You said

Replace the word Playstation with Xbox360, or Revolution, or PSP, or Saturn, or whatever you want and it becomes fairly generic PR. Meaningless drivel.

All I'm saying is that the whole article shouldn't be called meaningless drivel. Didn't Kojima actually say that the CELL processor is the key to winning the war? Yes he did and you didn't see people cast that statement as meaningless drivel.

at you saying that I'm wearing the "I love Sony" badge. The funny thing is I take up for the Xbox 360 damn near everyday (starting this week) and people act like they don't even notice. And if Major Nelson did say that I would be jumping on him. I have no respect for someone that lies and knows what he is doing.

Now if J. Allard were to say that I wouldn't have a problem with him saying that. I would say something like "I would like to see them prove it." Sony has proven more in the console game than MS has so that's why I didn't say it here.

 

[DuckThor Evil]

The xbox 360 controller is like a sweet woman

/Imagining jvd alone in his room with X360 controller.......ummm.....SWEET!.

 

[mckmas8808]

If you don't know, I'm not gonna tell you.

I realize you WANT to believe any positive Sony PR/Hype/News and that's your choice. I just wouldn't recommend it.

Never said that I believed that photorealistic cars were possible. But of course you and some others will skip this post.

 

[liverkick]

Here's the original quote in context.

With the advent of PS3, are there any concepts that have you've been dreaming about for years that, with the new technology, can now be brought to fruition?

Kaz Yamauchi- Though difficult to explain in detail at this time, perhaps I can share the possibilities in an abstract way. The PlayStation 3 is the first piece of hardware allowing photo-realistic computer graphics, and is the first game hardware that can perform calculations for physics simulation to the level of our satisfaction. With a matrix of such elements, a new world of entertainment is about to unfold. This is the beginning of a world, different to that of what we have called "games" up to today.

I know the branded shock troops on this forum are ready to flood any lofty comment from the Sony camp about their own product, but the twitch-indignation out of some of you guys is getting rather comical. Ambiguous hyperbole from one of the most respected designers in the biz for a mainstream press release is nothing to get your panties in a bunch over.

 

[Azrael]

The PlayStation 3 is the first piece of hardware allowing photo-realistic computer graphics,

Maybe he actually is ignorant of what rendering photo-realistic computer graphics really takes.

 

[Neme]

Maybe he's talking about game hardware, not professional rendering studios, and he seems to be talking about it as being the first game hardware that they're satisfied with. By the way, GT4 is already close to photorealism, though I think it's mostly artistic achievement, playing with contrast and lighting. Nevertheless I believe in them making GT5 photorealistic.

 

[one]

" he reckons, and went on to say "Xbox 360 is not just a platform, it's a movement,"

That paraphrase is wrong, as it's clear that Yamauchi refers to all PS family, not PS3. You can't put an unproven console name there. Read the full interview Mefisutoferesu posted and Yamauchi talks about his involvement with the entire Playstation history. You should have modified it into "Xbox is not just a platform, it's a movement". If you feel it doesn't work, then replace it with "Xbox Live" or whatever

 

[Azrael]

Maybe he's talking about game hardware, not professional rendering studios, and he seems to be talking about it as being the first game hardware that they're satisfied with. By the way, GT4 is already close to photorealism, though I think it's mostly artistic achievement, playing with contrast and lighting. Nevertheless I believe in them making GT5 photorealistic.

Or maybe you need to get outside more?

 

[ecliptic]

Maybe he's talking about game hardware, not professional rendering studios, and he seems to be talking about it as being the first game hardware that they're satisfied with. By the way, GT4 is already close to photorealism, though I think it's mostly artistic achievement, playing with contrast and lighting. Nevertheless I believe in them making GT5 photorealistic.

GT4 using a poor quality photo as a background texture is not close to photorealism.

 

[_phil_]

photorealism just mean light accuracy. From there , everyone builds it's own definition.

 

[Neme]

GT4 using a poor quality photo as a background texture is not close to photorealism.

I don't think it's about quality. IMO it's the adjustment of the contrast and the lightmaps and other stuff to get close to what you would see overall when you look at a photo, be it a high quality one or a poor one. It could be a photo with a blurred background, in which case a lowres background for the game matches it well and helps with better utilizing the resources for other things as well. So as I said it's mostly art direction at work but also coders' work to get smooth refresh, etc. Oviously with better hardware they can go yet another step further.

 

[London Geezer]

Maybe he actually is ignorant of what rendering photo-realistic computer graphics really takes.

Wow, you just called Yamauchi "ignorant".
I agree whoever takes PR word for real needs to get a reality check, but i'm sorry to say, you go WAY overboard.
But then again, you're a rabid troll so i'm not surprised.

 

[Azrael]

Wow, you just called Yamauchi "ignorant".
I agree whoever takes PR word for real needs to get a reality check, but i'm sorry to say, you go WAY overboard.
But then again, you're a rabid troll so i'm not surprised.

Nah, if I was a "rabid troll" I'd have 15,152 posts instead of just 51.

 

[London Geezer]

Nah, if I was a "rabid troll" I'd have 15,152 posts instead of just 51.

Sure.
If you're finished ruining the thread, now you can go.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

I saw this article yesterday morning and decided not to post it as it's worthless. If it belongs anywhere it's in the Sony PR section. A Sony 1st party developer saying their console is the best ever isn't news and isn't worth hearing. It's not at all difficult to imagine one's own hyperbole for a console so why get excited over someone else making up hyperbole? Devs should stick to writing software, not soundbites.

 

[Azrael]

They can damn me for heresy as they will, but Sony's clergy are just going to have to accept that not everyone worships their God.