Xbox 360 Video Interview - Scott Henson

mmm... Yeah, I saw the low quality option, but does that apply to the video quality or both the video and the audio? I guess the audio wouldn't be terrible, but I try to minimize my downloading when I can. Thanks anyway. :)
 
Alstrong said:
mmm... Yeah, I saw the low quality option, but does that apply to the video quality or both the video and the audio? I guess the audio wouldn't be terrible, but I try to minimize my downloading when I can. Thanks anyway. :)
audio was not too bad on the LQ vid

all of kikizo's interviews sound like they're recorded in a bathroom anyway. ;)
 
Tap In said:
(for example not rendering at 1080p but upscaling
I'm surprised that the thought never crossed Microsoft mind to upscale to such a res. Would it have been that hard for them to implement?
 
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Dr. Nick said:
I'm surprised that the though never crossed Microsoft mind to upscale to such a res. Would it have been that hard for them to implement?
They upscale to 1080i, this is the maximium input resolution for 99% of the 1080p TV sets out there.

I don't know why they didn't support 1080p, but my guess would be that when they did up their little pie-chart of HDTV installed base for the year 2008/2009, the true native 1080p sets were a tiny little 1% or 2% of the pie.

Technically I don't think it's an issue, developers here state that basically 1080i is just as taxing as 1080p in a realworld situation. Probably just based on the fact there will be next to no 1080p content, and that the install base for true 1080p TV's is currently non-existant.
 
i don't think it matters that they didn't have a scaler to 1080p, what would be the point really? would it make a game that renders at 720p look any better? and also, if you have an hdtv that supports 1080p, it can scale to that resolution just as well as a console could, right? I don't see why theres such a big deal about it, I think it's correct to say that 720p is the best option for this new generation to render games at as far as resolution/performance.. it seems that ps3 devs are targetting it as well from everything I've read so far.
 
The Xbox 360Two (for want of a better tag) can always add a 1080p output mode with a new video scaler in 2008/9/whatever, along with digital out. Shouldn't affect the existing games, afaiks.
 
m1nd_x said:
and also, if you have an hdtv that supports 1080p, it can scale to that resolution just as well as a console could, right?

Maybe, maybe not, all depends on the quality of the scaler in the TV. Some are pretty bad at scaling - you might be better off letting your PS3 do it.
 
oh not to mention his only controversial comment (after a direct question by the interviewer) he said .... "ask any dev and you will find that 1080p is basically impossible

Umm it's not really controversial, it's fact.

The whole 1080P thing was such a joke..people on GAF pretending that 1080P TV's were the only worthwhile ones just because it was some Sony bullet point.

I'm sorry when you let even throwaway bullet points the company itself has no intention of supporting color your purchasing decisions..
 
binky said:
Umm it's not really controversial, it's fact.

The whole 1080P thing was such a joke..people on GAF pretending that 1080P TV's were the only worthwhile ones just because it was some Sony bullet point.

I'm sorry when you let even throwaway bullet points the company itself has no intention of supporting color your purchasing decisions..
Does anyone remember the 2x 1080p screens that could be run via the dual DVI rumour?
 
winterbird@nerdshack.com said:
Does anyone remember the 2x 1080p screens that could be run via the dual DVI rumour?

That's not a rumour, it's true (dual HDMI, though). It looks increasingly useful with passing announcements (e.g. PS3 Linux).
 
winterbird@nerdshack.com said:
Ahh, true. But gaming..

I highly doubt it will be utilised in the way that was flying around.

There were a number of suggested uses. If you're talking about 32:9 gaming across two screens, rendering the scene entirely to two screens, then that will indeed be very rare I think. But gaming applications aside from that are quite possible (and apparently there are some games in development using the dual screen capability in one fashion or another), not to mention more general ones (e.g. one person watching a movie on one screen while someone else plays on another etc.).
 
Titanio said:
That's not a rumour, it's true (dual HDMI, though). It looks increasingly useful with passing announcements (e.g. PS3 Linux).

I really fail to see why 2 x 1080p (or HDMI for that matter) will be 'increasingly useful'.

I doubt there will ever be a time I'll plug in my PS3 in that kind of setup.

And I'm a game / tech freak. Go figure.
 
If you are to route your devices via a HT receiver, it's safe to say HDMI is the connection you'll be mainly using in the near future.
Already, if you have a digital display, and want to keep the signal digital, there really is no choice but HDMI (and DVI). Basically, if you want to avoid unnecessary digital to analog conversions (and why shouldn't you), you use HDMI.
HDMI is a welcome standard to clean up the cable clutter, not right today maybe, but in near future for sure.
Would PS3 not have HDMI, it would be more difficult to include in the already crowded backpanels of displays and receivers.
The biggest advantage of HDMI (and DVI) though to me is the fact that it keeps the signal digital, thus better quality.

Edit: I wonder if the second HDMI in the PS3 (prototype) can be used as HDMI "in".
It would be nice if you could use the PS3 as an external video scaler / picture processor by routing for example a 480p device through PS3 and making a high quality upscaling inside the PS3 before sending it to the display device.
In some early Ken Kutaragi interviews I remember something like that was hinted at.
 
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2x1080p is ridiculous. Who's going to have access to 2 1080p screens in the same room?! Though it isn't limited to 2x 1080p, it could be a 1080p and a 720p screen, or two 720p screens. But that's still a lot of TV. I don't know if Sony actually had (has)something in mind for this, or just thought to throw it in in case someone finds a good use for it. If there's Linux apps that supports 2x 1080p, and you've got maybe a couple of projectors, you could have a half dozen office workers all working from the same wall-sized projections instead of needing their own monitors. Might work for NASA? :D
 
pipo said:
I really fail to see why 2 x 1080p (or HDMI for that matter) will be 'increasingly useful'.

I doubt there will ever be a time I'll plug in my PS3 in that kind of setup.

And I'm a game / tech freak. Go figure.

It needn't be 2 1080p screens nor 2 HDMI screens, but it'll scale up to that. It could be a monitor with DVI and your analog TV. The second video-out can be the AV multi-out also (at least according to Phil Harrison).

I've already figured out how I'm going to set it up :p PS3 under my desk with KB/mouse plugged in, with DVI to my PC monitor, and then a longer cable to my projector at the other side of the room. Since the controllers are wireless it makes this kind of setup possible. Heck, with bluetooth KB/mouse, I could probably place the system itself wherever was most convenient - the only "limiting" factor would be video cable length.

It's a matter of convenience as much as anything else. This way I can use it as a "workstation" or as a games machine without having to move it around etc. And my PC monitor is neatly placed relative to my projector screen such that I could use it as a secondary screen in games, if I wanted, also.
 
OK. For Linux / dev stuff (is that confirmed?) it might be useful...

But that's what, 1% of their (200M) market? I'd say even less.

Oh well, it's 'free' I guess. ;)
 
Connecting to 720p screens would actually be kind of useful, at least when IO think of my needs.
I plan to buy a 720p front projector soon, but as they really aren't that suitable for a primary display, I plan to use it mainly for watching DVD and Blu-ray movies and occasionally gaming.
So I'll puirchase a 26-32" (or bigger if money allows) LCD or plasma under (or behind) the big-screen, that I'd use for TV and majority of my gaming.

With PS3, the other HDMI connected to the front projector, and the other to the LCD or plasma, I wouldn't need to physically keep switching the cables when I want to watch a Blu-ray movie or play a short game on PS3. Of course a separate HDMI switcher (or a receiver with HDMIs) would do the same thing, but it would add extra cost.

The two HDMI's add welcome versatility in setting up, although I doubt that's been the main reason when they designed it that way...
 
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