Titanio said:
What u mean memory? The trans counts for PC GPUs only include whatever many transistors are on the die. External memory is another thing.
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What u mean memory? The trans counts for PC GPUs only include whatever many transistors are on the die. External memory is another thing.
PC-Engine said:
Oh right. Well PC GPUs have no eDRAM, and i'm pretty sure Dave's tables count all transistors, including the small caches.
Titanio said:
CPU and GPU transistor counts shouldn't be comapred. Heat dissipation is directly proportional to transistor count and clock frequency as a general rule. GPUs ~ 500 MHz and CPUs ~ 3 GHz. And you shouldn't definitely be comparing chips on different processes.
Comapre CPU to CPU transistor counts on the SAME process.
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hmmm. it might explain the rumored 96 ALUs in the R520 Fudo for PC. this thing is supposed to have 300 to 350 million transistors. X360 GPU has 48 ALUs and supposedly 150 million transistors. is it possible that Microsoft went for a relatively "lite" GPU with eDRAM? this seems to mirror Gamecube's GPU+eDRAM approach. Flipper is a fairly simple GPU compared to Xbox. Flipper relies on its embedded 1T-SRAM for Gamecube's nicely modest and fairly impressive graphics.
zsouthboy said:
No! Please please please allow me to use a goddamn mouse and keyboard!
WTF!?
Many people would disagree. Many people don't want a keyboard and mouse in their living room.
No harm in givng them the option though if you support a USB keyboard. Seems console manufacturers and software developers have an obsession with removing things for no good reason, like dropping 1080i for the PAL version of GT4. Options don't hurt anyone.
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london-boy said:zsouthboy said:
No! Please please please allow me to use a goddamn mouse and keyboard!
WTF!?
Many people would disagree. Many people don't want a keyboard and mouse in their living room.
Okay, but they don't have to use it. But being denied the possibility to use keyboard and mouse makes no sense IMO.
Well, cutting support altogether is probably their way to give X360 more of a "console credibility". With all this talk about Media Hub, X360 PC version and all, they need to show that a PC is a PC and the X360 is a console.
I don't agree with taking options out, what i'm saying is that i understand where they're coming from.
I don't agree with taking options out, what i'm saying is that i understand where they're coming from.
Gerry said:Where are you getting the 150M transistor count for the R500?
I must be blind.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/612/612995p1.html
This is off-topic, but actually, in this case they do as they give advantages to some players who choose to play with the optional and more advanced/precise input methods over those who choose to remain with the default.Shifty Geezer said:
Only 500GHz? Bit of a slip-up there, right?
Anyway, if the thing has 10MB of DRAM embedded on the chip, that's at least 80 million transistors, and actually quite a bit more than that as 1kilo in computer-sp33k is 1024, and not 1000...
Anyway, if the thing has 10MB of DRAM embedded on the chip, that's at least 80 million transistors, and actually quite a bit more than that as 1kilo in computer-sp33k is 1024, and not 1000...