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Will Sony Be The "Next SEGA"?
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I'm confident in believing that Sony is in a good position in the long run......
I believe there are key qualities that are not mentioned much in the media, that all types of gamers will appreciate...if not now...eventually...
*strong 1st Party Support, as well as Great Relationships with key companies like Insomniac , Naughty Dog among others....... that take advantage of the system with games that you can only find on the system.......
*Reliability.... from the PS3's Hardware to even its disc format... BluRay discs won't scratch easy, if at all....unless purposely done......
*Future Proof and long lasting support... Sony has proven themselves in the past to support their systems to very........very end.....
I believe a lot of gamers will *eventually* own a PS3.......
and if you want, you have a HD Disc player to take advantage of your HDTV....now or later if you eventually get a HDTV.......
I think Sony did a very good job of living up to their reputation this gen.....as far as taking risks and such........even when they didn't have to.... they could have played it safe and just released a system that was simple to develop for and released it early.......
I appreciate Sony products..... I love technology and it seems that Sony does too.....on top of making money of course....
I'm typing this with a Sony UX280p......I believe there is one other company (OQO) that sell a UMPC that has a keyboard (in the States)...... they are not going to sell millions and millions of these things.... but I am glad Sony did release this thing.... just like I am glad they didn't play it safe with the PS3.....
for everyone that is worried about sales compared to other consoles and the doom of the PS3 let alone the Playstation brand name...... don't worry too much, enjoy your games for what ever system and just let this gen play out..........
I believe there are key qualities that are not mentioned much in the media, that all types of gamers will appreciate...if not now...eventually...
*strong 1st Party Support, as well as Great Relationships with key companies like Insomniac , Naughty Dog among others....... that take advantage of the system with games that you can only find on the system.......
*Reliability.... from the PS3's Hardware to even its disc format... BluRay discs won't scratch easy, if at all....unless purposely done......
*Future Proof and long lasting support... Sony has proven themselves in the past to support their systems to very........very end.....
I believe a lot of gamers will *eventually* own a PS3.......
and if you want, you have a HD Disc player to take advantage of your HDTV....now or later if you eventually get a HDTV.......
I think Sony did a very good job of living up to their reputation this gen.....as far as taking risks and such........even when they didn't have to.... they could have played it safe and just released a system that was simple to develop for and released it early.......
I appreciate Sony products..... I love technology and it seems that Sony does too.....on top of making money of course....
I'm typing this with a Sony UX280p......I believe there is one other company (OQO) that sell a UMPC that has a keyboard (in the States)...... they are not going to sell millions and millions of these things.... but I am glad Sony did release this thing.... just like I am glad they didn't play it safe with the PS3.....
for everyone that is worried about sales compared to other consoles and the doom of the PS3 let alone the Playstation brand name...... don't worry too much, enjoy your games for what ever system and just let this gen play out..........
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Agreed.
They are very well setup for ps4, then again, Sega did everything right with Dreamcast, yet by then, their past mistakes were too much to overcome.
umm...
Sony used to have a reputation. This gen, they've done everything possible to piss it away.
I dont think it's just Sony's fault/actions
Correct, MS and N have done a very good job filling the void Sony left for them.
But make no mistake, this gen was Sony's for the taking. They just got too greedy.
yup.....I was going to post this earlier to your response but I didn't.... I'll do it now though....
I am talking about Sony as a company....not just the playstation brand.... although, even the PS2 was a *different* type of hardware to develop for.....
Sony takes risks with their products....even though they already have a well known brand name....no?
with the PS3 they could've just released a DVD based system and called it a day and cashed in on the money.....and most likely would have been going head to head with the wii as far as sales....and would've done alot better in regards to software sales......
instead it seems they want to make alot more money in the long run and to "keep people in the living room" along with the rest of their "hardware buddies"
sure the console costs more....it is a reliable system for the tech it provides.....its storage medium holds more and this should come in handy through out this gen.....
if you didn't purchase a PS3 when it first released because of price.......Sony was most likely not marketing it to you.........this $399 price....might be....or next year, with a lower price for the Holidays (bundled with LittleBigPlanet...maybe) marketed towards a different demographic.....
the PS3 is selling well....for its high price, having strong competition, and with perceived notion that it doesn't have any games.......
it should only get better as the price goes down...and more *well known* exclusive games release.....
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Indeed,
But even Sony as a company has slid. Not long ago, I used to be able to go to any product genre that Sony offered and head to the top of the list to find the best (or among the best) in the class (within reason).
Now, you really need to do your homework.
Regarding their risk this gen, sure they took risks, but not in the sense which benefit you the consumer. They used to though.
Regarding Sony selling better down the road: they may, but remember they aren't in a bubble and people aren't waiting around for ps3 to finally get it's act together. Sure some will, but don't look for a mass exedous from xb360 and or Wii.
Oh no doubt, I'm saying they got too greedy by trying to tie BR to ps3 and have gamers foot the bill without any tangible gaming benefit over their competition to justify the increased cost.
I almost sure ms would have used hddvd if it was ready.They launched early only for a head start, and said HDMI and 1080p doesnt matter, now look they use HDMI and 1080p logos
And Nintendo would have done far worse had they tried to compete in graphics just like every other generation. I sure hope Sony doesnt go and use that cheap tactic for hardware sales next-gen.
I almost sure ms would have used hddvd if it was ready.They launched early only for a head start, and said HDMI and 1080p doesnt matter, now look they use HDMI and 1080p logos
yes, clearly they should have just added the features and not mentioned it... At least they don't have to write about the removal of features on the side of the box.
1) The comments removed were off-topic talk about whether games were good or not, with 'not the most civil' of language, that would have taken the thread in the wrong direction. I nipped it in the bud. If the debate was civil and well handled, I'd have reminded people to stay on target and/or spawned it into another thread.
2) Do you think mods don't sleep? Or have no other life than monitoring the board? You expect us to react within moments 24/7 to any board 'infraction'?
3) What's wrong with waving GT around as a reason Sony aren't out of the running? You'll have to explain your complaint better.
4) Any complaints of posts should be reported with the 'Report Post' button, and any complaints of the moderation should be posted in the Forum Feedback forum or via PM to the mod.
I'll leave Skyring's post and this here, even though they're messing up the thread, or some will assume any cleaning up done is suppressing his free speech and the mods want him silenced because he's onto us...
I'm sure Sony won't quit. Almost everyone sees the situation if the Sony isn't first now it loosing. Of course Wii is or let's say was selling extremly well, but in Europe you have no problem with getting this system. Even in Japan sales are falling and it's 2:1 Wii vs PS3. But getting back to Sony. It has different strategy as they have still PS2 on the market which is selling excellent for a system which was bought by more then 120mln times (I didn't write people, 'cause some might have bought more then one PS2 for many reasons). So I think Sony took into consideration PS2's possition and also high cost of producing PS3 and they were not pushing PS3 so hard. They knew the most expensive part Blu-Ray laser with get cheaper very quickly as it's used not only in PS3. Now Sony has new, very low price for the console and great games are out in next few months. I'm sure PS3 sales will go up considerably as it's high time for Sony to attact.
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To point 3, at what point does merely posting a picture with no commentary constitute a discussion? If we were to time travel to the launch of DC and then PS2 and took some screen grabs, I assure you that there were beautiful (for its time) DC games, that still did not stop them from becoming a software only company. Not only did they become software only, but SEGA is not the quality name it once was.
There is no sign that points to Sony becoming software only, and there is no reason Sony should do software only. They have two very successful platforms and one looking to gain a foothold. Maybe we can have this discussion if they are somehow going bankrupt, a major third-party developer decides not to make games for them, the PS3 fails and the PS2 is no longer a cash cow, the PSP batteries all explode and each of them has to be recalled, until then [yawn]
PS3 sales have climb over 5 millon so far and they have 2 games over a millon sold. I think those are decent numbers for 11 months. By the end of the year they'll probably have 7 million units with R&C being the next millon seller in the forseeable future. I don't see any other PS3 titles giving R&C competition this holiday.
How was the Dreamcast in comparison if anybody knows?
How was the Dreamcast in comparison if anybody knows?
As with any game, GT fanboys view the game and its importance in the grand scheme of things through rosy glasses. There were 90+ million PS2 fans last generation who didn't care about GT. GT by itself may make the PS3 the best niche console for racing games, but it can't bring it back to dominance - you need more multi-million sellers for that.
Obviously not. But this screenshot shows a lot more than just saying that Sony has Gran Turismo.
This screenshot shows a great many things, that you can take as being both symbolic for Gran Turismo and for the PS3. What you see here in this shot for instance, is 1920x1080/60fps native simulation of a silk (even with transparency! look closely) cloth being draped over a car and being animated, and with beautiful lighting. You have to see it to believe it - I wish I could record it properly, may try with my sucky camera. If they have succeeded in doing this in a generic manner for all cars then that is a(n even greater) triumph of technology.
Additionally, this shows a game demo integrated with the Tokyo Motor Show, reveiling an important car (actually more than one) to the public at the same time through the game as through the live event, with live shows also available for download through the game. That is a very successful integration of reality ...
Finally, the game itself shows great promise with very high quality visuals and 16 player online at 60fps with 4xMSAA and HDR at 720p (or 2xMSAA 1920x1080p currently upscaled from 1280x1080p) with awesome reflections to boot.
Anyway, I have a huge list of reasons why I'm pretty convinced that Sony will never be the next Sega, but then I was never convinced of the usefulness of this thread anyway, and it was only my giddiness over seeing the beautiful silk in the GT5 Prologue Demo that led me to post this screenshot.
(I did actually have comments on how this picture said more than a thousand words and seemed to me pretty symbolic in many ways of both Gran Turismo and the PS3, but I guess I added them afterwards and then forgot to hit Save at some point, before hitting the new posts button.)
The way I saw it, it was a (tongue-in-cheek) comment that Sony can't be dead because they still have GT5. The picture is also a reaction from Arwin's enthusiasm over that particular part in the demo, which, according to him, has very natural, realistic silk moving around. If you haven't seen Arwin's posts elsewhere, you won't have picked up on this, but he is very, very excited! As a quick response to the OP, it seems okay to me, though if he has more to say, he should expand.
But seriously, why bother? It's not a lengthy, worthwhile debate from Arwin, but then there's nothing more to add to this debate anyway. No-one yet has presented an argument in favour of the idea of Sony going under, so there's no debate to be had! I've only left the thread open just in case someone actually has a worthwhile point that Sony may actually be pulling out that will lead to a real debate. If the original poster wants to step in with either a 'thanks for answering my query' (end of thread) or a 'okay, I see your point, but looking at [link] and [link] it still seems to me that [some incredible event] may happen and Sony will retreat' (start of real debate) then we'll be going somewhere. Until someone actually provides something to discuss, there's no reason to expect detailed contributions from anyone! Instead we wander off-topic straight away, first into which console is better, then into console marketing, with a spot of MS's position, and finally a discussion on my mod'ing choices! Weak topics lead to weak, aimless threads, which is why they're normally ended before the ever begin.
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