What was Microsoft saying about "choice" again?

Encoding to WMV is so troublesome though. I have a library of Media on my Files Server, that are different spectrums of the video format rainbow. Most are .avi's. I really want to have content streamed to my Sony 61" HDTV in the living room...so i'll probably have to bear with it and encode my animes to WMV's. But I was more worried about HD material, and if the HD-WMV capabilities are kept in tact, then i'll be ok with that.
 
BlueTsunami said:
Encoding to WMV is so troublesome though. I have a library of Media on my Files Server, that are different spectrums of the video format rainbow. Most are .avi's. I really want to have content streamed to my Sony 61" HDTV in the living room...so i'll probably have to bear with it and encode my animes to WMV's. But I was more worried about HD material, and if the HD-WMV capabilities are kept in tact, then i'll be ok with that.

It should play 720p / 1080i videos just fine . 1080p is most likely going to be downl sampled.

I'm still confused about the live messaging .

Do you have to hook your tv feed (Sat , cable , antena ) to your pc and stream it from your pc to your xbox 360 to your tv to get the live messages poping it while watching tv ?
 
But I was more worried about HD material, and if the HD-WMV capabilities are kept in tact, then i'll be ok with that.

An update codenamed "Emerald" for Windows MCE has been in beta testng for a few months. It will add functionality and X360 support including hi def support. At the Games Convention conference they briefly showed HD streaming off of a Media Center laptop. They showed an Oblivion trailer and a small clip of Star Wars: Episode II
 
jvd said:
jsut encode it into wmv files . It will still play them . It just wont play dvds through the network and I can understand that . The latancy from dvd - lan - player would be to long.
As I understand the issue isn't just lack of DVD playing, which isn't a big problem (just play them on the XB360) but that the only codec you can broadcast is WMV9. If you download anything else, DivX, QuickTime or what have you, you have to go through the rigmarole and quality-munching of recompression. Far from an ideal solution.
 
Shifty Geezer said:
As I understand the issue isn't just lack of DVD playing, which isn't a big problem (just play them on the XB360) but that the only codec you can broadcast is WMV9. If you download anything else, DivX, QuickTime or what have you, you have to go through the rigmarole and quality-munching of recompression. Far from an ideal solution.

Sure its far from ideal. But they aren't the only ones who want to push thier own standards .
 
london-boy said:
Aren't they? At least "others" are trying to make it easy on us.

Yes ?

Only one I can say thats true for is apple . Sony restricts its mp3 playback (or did they may have broaden thier failing push for thier version)


Sony hasn't announced what they offer so I will wait and see .


As for ms i'm sure there will be hacks and mods quickly after . If not i can live with wmv files . Doesn't take long to re encode and i will try and join wmv groups instead of divx groups that i join now .

Now if it does play divx and other files localy , i.e through a dvd . I will just burn them onto a disc. Will take me a min and i don't have to send large files over my network
 
jvd said:
As for ms i'm sure there will be hacks and mods quickly after . If not i can live with wmv files . Doesn't take long to re encode and i will try and join wmv groups instead of divx groups that i join now

Thats the bad thing. Stuff like this will encourage "hacks and mods". Of course, it will still happen anyways...but this just gives hackers and moders another reason to take apart the 360 both Hardware and Software wise.
 
Ty said:
Most definitely. But wouldn't it be several orders of magnitude easier to just browse the content on your PC (network) and double click to view it on your TV? Instead of having the burn a disc first and then insert it into the X360?

Sure it would be easier, just the way people were reacting it sounded if that option were cut out completely. Now I see it's just a case of preference I'm not too concerned.

If I had content that was important enough to me that I was I upset about not being able to stream, I figure that content would also be important enough to me that I would have already burned it in order to save it in case my HDD went corrupt.
 
Hehe, h.264 is nice. But you know where I'm going with this :p Why is everyone okay with the limited playback of xbox360 but fine with it on PSP? The amount of support doesn't seem any different... you have your standard avi/mpeg codecs, and wmv (h.264 on psp).

As much as it sucks, it makes sense.
 
PG2G said:
Hehe, h.264 is nice. But you know where I'm going with this :p Why is everyone okay with the limited playback of xbox360 but fine with it on PSP? The amount of support doesn't seem any different... you have your standard avi/mpeg codecs, and wmv (h.264 on psp).

As much as it sucks, it makes sense.

I'm not upset about either. i have to reencode all my psp stuff to make it fit on my memory sticks .

Mabye ps3 will let us use all codecs . I dunno mabye when ps3 comes out offering all codecs ms will open up and allow more ?
 
Why is the PSP even a factor. Your probably going to have to reencode the video anywasy so it can fit the the video itself on the PSP's MC. I can take a whole DVD, RIP it and encode it with PSP9 and bring it down to 200MB (withought the extras and lowing the bitrate of the sound). Now this scenario is about a stationary media extender that seems to be crippled on the formats that it can play. If any regular passive gamer (non technical) will try to stream certain files that are not WMV....they won't know what to do.
 
BlueTsunami said:
Why is the PSP even a factor. Your probably going to have to reencode the video anywasy so it can fit the the video itself on the PSP's MC. I can take a whole DVD, RIP it and encode it with PSP9 and bring it down to 200MB (withought the extras and lowing the bitrate of the sound). Now this scenario is about a stationary media extender that seems to be crippled on the formats that it can play. If any regular passive gamer (non technical) will try to stream certain files that are not WMV....they won't know what to do.

Thats not true .

Your saying its okay for psp9 to make u rencode. Which means passive gamers have to learn how to do it . Why can't they learn how to go from dvi to wmv ? Just release a simple tool for it and it shouldn't be any more of a problem than doing it for the psp .

I agree the best route would be supporting more codecs but perhaps it costs money ?
 
PG2G said:
Hehe, h.264 is nice. But you know where I'm going with this :p Why is everyone okay with the limited playback of xbox360 but fine with it on PSP? The amount of support doesn't seem any different... you have your standard avi/mpeg codecs, and wmv (h.264 on psp).

As much as it sucks, it makes sense.
As I understand, MCE has the capability to decode DivX + QuickTime. You can view these on MCE, but not stream them to XB360. PSP on the other hand hasn't support for different codecs, though they may be added at a later date.

If Sony provide the capacity to view DivX, QuickTime, h.264 and MVC on PS3, but only allow you to broadcast to PSP files saved in h.264 format, then it'll be a comparative situation. As it is you have a format on MCE but can't use it as is on the XB360 as an extender, despite the extender doing little more than receiving a forwarded transmission. Perhaps though this is because the codecs would need to be available on XB360 to allow QT and DivX playback as the data streams are sent compressed, in which case it's a fair limitation though rather a poor design choice IMO.
 
jvd said:
Thats not true .

Your saying its okay for psp9 to make u rencode. Which means passive gamers have to learn how to do it . Why can't they learn how to go from dvi to wmv ? Just release a simple tool for it and it shouldn't be any more of a problem than doing it for the psp .

I agree the best route would be supporting more codecs but perhaps it costs money ?

You do have a point there. I don't know....as what Shifty said though MCE have the ability to support varying codecs....so its more or less MS choosing to not support those codecs intead of doing so...but yeah..it could be a licensing issue.
 
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