What was Microsoft saying about "choice" again?

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First there's the whole issue with USB flash drives, now this:

If you wish to play a DVD via the Media Centre you can not stream this - it is only avaliable over the LAN, you can only do this with a local disk.

One other downfall is that the Media Centre Extender can not play anything bar WMV9 encoded video, even if you do install the DIVX codecs on your main Media Centre system.
 
Media Centre Extender can not play anything bar WMV9 encoded video, even if you do install the DIVX codecs on your main Media Centre system.

wtf?....now that just sucks!!!! Everyday that goes by, the streaming capabilites seem to get more and more restrictive! I hope that they allow another form of encoded video in the future (through a firmware update..if thats even possible).
 
Wait, let me get this straight. Regardless of the fact I have Media Center PC hooked up I still can't play anything beyond WMVs?? Tell me this is a joke. More over I need a HDD to stream movies from the MCPC?? Why is MS cripling everything involving multimedia??

EDIT:: You don't suppose MS did this in some strange way to push the WMV format, do you? A lot of the moves that we're seeing, like the xbox360 being a media-extender than self contained, have been because MS was trying to protect other assets of boost them.
 
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I think that they probably see the 360 as having such broad appeal that they can use it to:

A) Turn a wider cross-section of the populace onto Media Center PCs

and

B) Once having done so, kind of 'guide' them to more widespread adoption of their own formats; and thus wider proliferation/popularity in general in a trickle down effect

What I see though is a lot of people buying it and saying, "What? Why can't I stream this...?" But Microsoft might succeed at making WMV more prolific - who knows?

EDIT: Mefisutoferesu I think your edit beat my post, but we're thinking along the same lines.
 
Mefisutoferesu said:
EDIT:: You don't suppose MS did this in some strange way to push the WMV format, do you? A lot of the moves that we're seeing, like the xbox360 being a media-extender than self contained, have been because MS was trying to protect other assets of boost them.

Yep, and this method REALLY helped Sony in the MP3 wars, huh.

The iPod is a good scenario of how things should work... make a solid piece of hardware, a clean user interface, support the mainstream formats, market it well, get a nice form factor, and give people what they want (like a ton of space). Make money off the hardware (in this case a large HDD + Media Center addon OS for the 360) and the sale of music, game content, etc...

Instead it seems like MS is too busy directing them to other products instead of making the most out of what they have. Looks like MS is intent on keeping the 360 a gaming machine and not really expanding it too much beyond that core functionality.
 
pfff, weak...

my XBOX1 isn't going anywhere.

PLEASE, mod this puppy fast so we can port a real media player over.

it's pretty weak when I can buy a $40 DVD player that'll play everything under the sun, but a $400 console can only play WMV files. What ever happened to simply creating a compelling product?
 
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What's the benefit of being able to stream it from your PC when the system itself already plays DVD's?
 
ninzel said:
What's the benefit of being able to stream it from your PC when the system itself already plays DVD's?

Because you might have other media (be it video or audio) on your PC network. Home movies, music, etc.
 
Ty said:
Because you might have other media (be it video or audio) on your PC network. Home movies, music, etc.

Could you not just burn that media onto a CD or DVD then play it from the 360? I read the 360 reads all kinds of disks and formats.
 
I don't really see what the hubbub is about not being able to play DVDs over the network, because if you can go from the DVD shelf over to your PC and stick the disc in its drive, can't you instead go from the DVD shelf over to the x360 and stick the disc in THAT drive instead?

The no other media format support seems a little weird tho, but I don't really care personally. I'm not going to play computer video files on my TV anyway as my PC monitor is quite sufficient for that.
 
ninzel said:
Could you not just burn that media onto a CD or DVD then play it from the 360? I read the 360 reads all kinds of disks and formats.


Most definitely. But wouldn't it be several orders of magnitude easier to just browse the content on your PC (network) and double click to view it on your TV? Instead of having the burn a disc first and then insert it into the X360?
 
Guden Oden said:
The no other media format support seems a little weird tho, but I don't really care personally. I'm not going to play computer video files on my TV anyway as my PC monitor is quite sufficient for that.

Do you have need/desire for the HTPC type media center? If not, then this turn of events probably doesn't affect you. :)
 
Ty said:
Do you have need/desire for the HTPC type media center?
No, not really. I know others like the idea, I just don't need that myself as my TV is less than 2 meters away from my PC. Still, the bitching about DVDs is silly as it's very easy to simply stick the disc in the console if you want to use it as a DVD player.

It would likely be a lot more reliant way of playing DVDs too, as PCs are prone to having hiccups where they suddenly feel like cleaning up the page file or updating virus definitions or some other shit that tends to suck a lot of performance that might cause stutters in network data flow.
 
We're seeing an intersting shift in this industry. Sony, once kings of the proprietary format, are opening themselves up to support more than just these own proprietary formats. They've added MP3 to devices they wanted only ATRAC, and different MemCard slots in PS3 instead of forcing people to use MemStick. Perhaps with Sony getting 'soft' MS see a chance to flex their own substantial proprietary muscles and win the crown of 'most aggravatingly and unneccesarily limited hardware developer'?
 
scooby_dooby said:
What ever happened to simply creating a compelling product?

They tried that once and it lost them 5 Billion dollars, so they ditched the idea in favour of the tried-and-true "milking consumers for all that they are worth" approach. :D
 
Well...does this mean that we can't stream High Definition WMV content? if thats the case...someone needs to get kicked in the balls.
 
sorry for ranting

the thing that irks me about this is that...

this particular feature was being hyped so much as if it was this totally turbulant, animalistic, orgasm...

but falls way, way, short...like an ill-fated, blue-balled experience...

it's the media remote control all over again...


although i could somewhat understand where they're coming from...

those licencing fees would have been very steep...

even with deep pockets, such as microsoft...


hopefully what they lack in added feature will be emphasized with quality gaming :)
 
BlueTsunami said:
Well...does this mean that we can't stream High Definition WMV content? if thats the case...someone needs to get kicked in the balls.

From everything I've read WMV-HD will be supported with X360.
 
Ty said:
Most definitely. But wouldn't it be several orders of magnitude easier to just browse the content on your PC (network) and double click to view it on your TV? Instead of having the burn a disc first and then insert it into the X360?

jsut encode it into wmv files . It will still play them . It just wont play dvds through the network and I can understand that . The latancy from dvd - lan - player would be to long .


As for needing the hardrive i guess they want t o cache to the drive instead of the ram ? That way on long movies of several hundred megs there wont be a problem ?
 
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