Web 2.0 and AJAX make for great iPhone games?

[wco81]

I would assume things like iChat are due to carrier constraints.

If people can iChat, why spend money on SMS? But I hope to see it, along with maybe a iSight camera in the future. VOIP which is not tied to the carrier probably won't happen.

Other things to wonder about are RAM, GPU and storage for more of these OS features. As they load more features, even with software updates, can the present hardware support a lot of new features?

Oh and one thing people talked about are things like landscape keyboard, copy and paste. These are more immediate things they could do.

 

[DemoCoder]

No, it's not carrier constraints, it's time constraints. Leaving iChat out accomplishes nothing, because you can still chat through AJAX services like GMail talk, or web-based Jabber gateways, and Apple has acknowledged this.

I got the impression from the Apple guys I talked to that the iPhone was rushed, and they were in emergency bug fixing/code freeze for along time. Remember, in January when they first demoed it, many apps were missing/partially functional. No Calendar, no YouTube, no Settings app, etc

I was heavily hinted that iChat, SIP, and Flash are already being worked on.

 

[Arun]

They conclude it is likely the Samsung Arm11 SC36400. Interestingly this chip does not have an integrated 3D processor. So it seems there is a good possibility the smaller Apple logo package next to it might have a discrete GPU.

Don't get me started on that one! Because it's a System in Package with Samsung DRAM, they just pick the highest-end ARM they can find on Samsung's website and conclude it has to be the other chip on the package? Yeah, right, whatever. It COULD be, but there is NO REASON to believe that this makes it more likely that the other chip in the package is from Samsung, IMO.

The other part that made them think that is analyst reports which have been predicting a Samsung application processor there pretty much forever. Once again, those analysts have proved time and again not to have very reliable insider information about these things, so while it is true that Samsung is a possible and educated guess, it's also not quite obvious to me that it is correct.

And for all we know, that System in Package could have three chips rather than two. And in fact, if you've got a discrete ARM and a discrete coprocessor for audio/video, that would make a lot of sense. Sigh...

 

[cthellis42]

If people can iChat, why spend money on SMS? But I hope to see it, along with maybe a iSight camera in the future. VOIP which is not tied to the carrier probably won't happen.

They still have you on a more expensive data plan regardless, so piddling over SMS messages would be kind of pointless. Thankfully at&t has been quite competitive with the iPhone plans, which might start the ball rolling to really commoditize internet use for mobile devices. If Verizon doesn't change their rates before my contract rolls around, I'd have to spend at least $85/month to get what would run me $60 from at&t, which basically makes gives me a damn REBATE on the iPhone itself. (And is the reason I didn't pick up anything smartphone-like to begin with.)

I don't even see why they wouldn't let you play with VOIP, as you're still on their network, now not making them shell out traffic costs. Their worry is for WiFi itself to get too intrinsic and allow non-cellular devices to abuse VOIP, not that devices they DO have control over could let you experiment with it.

Plus, if someone can whip up a client that uses web standards, there's no way to stop anyone from using it short of overt IP censorship, which would get people up in arms. Their "unlimited" data plans rarely are "unlimited," though, so if it kicks you over a contractual term, they can start charging you for it anyway. But that's only if you're using IP-through-EDGE [or whatever] anyway, and even the highest-speed commercial 3G right now is probably no good for reasonably responsive VOIP.

 

[Magallanes]

No, it's not carrier constraints, it's time constraints. Leaving iChat out accomplishes nothing, because you can still chat through AJAX services like GMail talk, or web-based Jabber gateways, and Apple has acknowledged this.

I got the impression from the Apple guys I talked to that the iPhone was rushed, and they were in emergency bug fixing/code freeze for along time. Remember, in January when they first demoed it, many apps were missing/partially functional. No Calendar, no YouTube, no Settings app, etc

I was heavily hinted that iChat, SIP, and Flash are already being worked on.

Even when i'm a newcomer on this forum and usually don't like to do it but i must scold you :NEVER (EVER) TRUST ON ANY MEGACORPORATION.

Of course iphone miss many features but there are no warrant that in THIS iphone we will see all changes. In fact if was physically credible to say "we can update the camera with a new firmware" then i bet that many people will say "don't worry about the camera, wait for the next update".

Even more :it's credible to say "java will come for iphone" ? even when the power of java are those 3rd parties developers?. Without 3rd parties software it's pointless to put a (not for free) j2me engine just for a selected developers (many are working without java).

IMHO Do you want all features?, then wait for the second generation.