vpu for next-gen Nintendo console?
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There was one off the cuff question I asked just before I was leaving the room - it wasn't really a proper Q/A, but I just asked if he'd knew anything about the rumours of MS and Nintendo teaming up. He said he'd heard about that, but he doesn't have much reason to believe there is anything in it at the moment.
bbot said:
Was there ever any doubt?
(Funny how we still have 18 threads on PS3, when we know more about both MS and Ninty's next outings than Sony's... I'm still waiting to see what they will put in there to output eye-candy)
Also, R500 seems the obvious choice, since the R420 is already out (well, almost there)... A console coming out next year (or later) wouldn't use a GPU that is commercially available this year, knowing the competition (MS) will use ATI's next generation of GPU...
overclocked
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No PVR then.. 
overclocked said:No PVR then..
PS3?
overclocked
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That´s cruel and you know it..
overclocked said:
That´s cruel and you know it..
Just teasing... Still, anything could be... Ati aint in it, Nvidia aint in it... Unless Sony do it all themselves, it could even be Matrox Oh god no... overclocked
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Well LB, you know as much as i that you will buy the PS3 if it´s even made of Lego and topped with a good sugarcake... 8)
overclocked said:Well LB, you know as much as i that you will buy the PS3 if it´s even made of Lego and topped with a good sugarcake... 8)
Not really, at least not until i find a way to spend so much money for something i will only use for an hour a month (i havent TOUCHED my PS2 since around xmas, other than to play cd's when i'm lazy - usually play all my music from iTunes on my PC)...
And personally, i will buy the system with the games that interest me. That is most of the best Konami games that happened to only appear on PS2 this generation, Square games, and to be honest i'm very much looking into keeping upgrading my PC for a while, which rules out any kind of console-gaming for the next few years. Maybe until PS3 is cheaper. I'm sure PS3 graphics will be different enough from PC graphics to grant me some nice wow factors, much like it happened this generation with PS2.
Personally, the system with the game the ICO team will be working on will be the system i buy. Which basically means PS3, unless something weird happens.
But in no way i will be buying my next console according to the name. If it werent for the fact that PS2 came out before GC, i would have been a Nintendo boy today (i barely have time to support one console at a time)
overclocked
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Just ironic, i have a GC, PS2 and the XB, and for the moment i don´t play any games at all on either...
And more ironically it´s been that for quite some time..
And more ironically it´s been that for quite some time..
Megadrive1988
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It's probably being designed mainly at ATI West, in Santa Clara CA. but it might also be a joint-effort between all three ATI design centers. I don't know though.
one key thing is, since N5 / GCNext is going to be compatable with Gamecube, it would have to run Flipper code somehow. So I believe the new Nintendo graphics processor might be a massively improved Flipper, with roughly 50x ~ 100x the performance of Flipper. <---pure speculation/guess
at least as much of a leap over Flipper that Flipper was over RCP (N64's graphic chip)
I'd say ATI will probably combine elements of R500, R600 and what I will call "next gen Flipper" into one chip that can run Gamecube/Flipper code (IBM will be doing the CPU(s).....
just a guess.
one key thing is, since N5 / GCNext is going to be compatable with Gamecube, it would have to run Flipper code somehow. So I believe the new Nintendo graphics processor might be a massively improved Flipper, with roughly 50x ~ 100x the performance of Flipper. <---pure speculation/guess
at least as much of a leap over Flipper that Flipper was over RCP (N64's graphic chip)
I'd say ATI will probably combine elements of R500, R600 and what I will call "next gen Flipper" into one chip that can run Gamecube/Flipper code (IBM will be doing the CPU(s).....
just a guess.
From Dave's interview with Dave Orton:
So if we want speculate, we can say that there's one of the 2 console that won't be out before (geusstimation!) 24 to 30 month (i added only 6 month, with the thought in mind that developers have already some kind of Devkit with almost the same part but one generation younger(R420 here))
hmm, interresting... if we assume that the GPU..err...VPU is the last part being designed.
Dave "Wavey" Baumann said:
Dave Orton said:
So if we want speculate, we can say that there's one of the 2 console that won't be out before (geusstimation!) 24 to 30 month (i added only 6 month, with the thought in mind that developers have already some kind of Devkit with almost the same part but one generation younger(R420 here))
hmm, interresting... if we assume that the GPU..err...VPU is the last part being designed.
jvd said:
Dave Orton said:
You're maybe right Jvd, but the "mainly focused" comment of D.Orton make me think that he was talking about the "chip only".
BTW i think that if they are planning switching process by only few month after the launch, they could have created the chip for both process parallelly.
You also have to remember that he talks about 2 Consoles, respectively Xenon and N5, therefore one of them could be on shelves before the other.
And it looks like the XboxNext will be the first on the market, so the GCN could fit, IMHO, in this "18/24 months R&D remaining" comment from Dave Orton.