The LAST R600 Rumours & Speculation Thread

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trinibwoy said:
Well like I said in that other thread I'm not really concerned with what it should sound like with the panels on. All I'm concerned with is the fact that I've had other cards in there with the panels off and have not experienced the same annoying fluctuations in pitch. Moot point now of course since the stock cooler has been replaced :)
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I thought all the dust that must cake in there (computers tend to attract somewhere around 1000000% more dust than anything else for instance) would help dampen the sound with the panel off.
 
There will be 2 versions of R600XTX; one is for OEM/SI and the other for retail. Both feature 1GB DDR4 memories on board but the OEM version is 12.4" long to be exact and the retail is 9.5" long. http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4622
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The first question why?
The second question which version will have better cooling system (12.4" or 9.5") since they are going to be same exact cards. Unless if 9.5" version will take up 3 slots instead 2 for cooling.
 
I heard a rumour that during developement the Ati engineers were given bicycles in case they needed to work on the power connectors and VGA ports on the same day.

I'm glad things are getting smaller and less power hungry for the enxt generation of cards, if the rumours are true. Everything should be geting smaller in computers not bigger. Except for heatsinks of course, they need to get even bigger to impress small children and visiting ladies.
 
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Shtal said:
Nvidia plans to introduce the new overclocked card with a driver tweak. This card is supposed to give DAAMIT's R600 a run for its money. We don’t know how much further Nvidia can push the G80 chip. http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37544
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Why does Nvidia has to do this so early? are they not happy with G80 performance!
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Is that the best they can do? An OC'ed G80 to counter the R600? :rolleyes: :???:

Its certainly going to be interesting how the R600 performs against the 8800GTX and its sucessor :D

*depressed about having to wait a few more months to see any comparisons*
 
NO NO because you see, if megahurtz no big then card no good...or was it why they need many megahurtz?For the life of me I can`t rember, it must be age:) And everybody knows that nVidia is so fooked, just like ATi has been so fooked-oy, I see a pattern here...odd;)

Being serious for a moment, I think that nV are simply going on according to their plan/roadmap. There has been no indication of issues causing delays and no reasons for pushing the schedule, so my guess is they`ll release the G81 or whatever it`s called because...tan tannaa...it fits their schedule. I don`t think they`re crapping their pants:ZOMG ZOMG, R600, ZOMG, WTF TO DO WTF TO DO, MUST RELEASE MANY MEGAHURTZ CARD TO AVOID BEING RIPPED A NEW ONE!Sure, if the R600 would get additional delays and if no real competition were in sight, I could see NV keeping the current line-up+releasing the lower-end parts like the G83/86, and maybe stocking up on parts for the G81 in order to have a booming launch like they had with the G70, but I think that`s unlikely as ATi seems to have their part ready.
 
Some more information has been leaked and confirmed.

R600 XTX : 1GB Memory GDDR4
R600 XT: 512MB Memory GDDR4
R600 XL: 512MB Memory GDDR3

RV610 and RV630 were scheduled for April, but have been pushed back by a month to May and it could even become a bit later than that.

RV630 is the replacement for the X1650Pro and X1650XT.
RV610Pro & RV610LE are the replacements for the X1300 series.

And last but not least, in Q3 the RV670 will be launched which is the replacement for the popular X1950Pro.

The lowend and midrange AMD cards slipping a month (or more) doesn't have to be bad since nVidia hasn't shipped out their G84 and G86 designkits to manufacturers. And if they don't do it by early next week, the launch of their cards will most likely also slip from the end of March to April because of the Chinese New Year.
 
CJ said:
Some more information has been leaked and confirmed.

R600 XTX : 1GB Memory GDDR4
R600 XT: 512MB Memory GDDR4
R600 XL: 512MB Memory GDDR3

RV610 and RV630 were scheduled for April, but have been pushed back by a month to May and it could even become a bit later than that.

RV630 is the replacement for the X1650Pro and X1650XT.
RV610Pro & RV610LE are the replacements for the X1300 series.

And last but not least, in Q3 the RV670 will be launched which is the replacement for the popular X1950Pro.

The lowend and midrange AMD cards slipping a month (or more) doesn't have to be bad since nVidia hasn't shipped out their G84 and G86 designkits to manufacturers. And if they don't do it by early next week, the launch of their cards will most likely also slip from the end of March to April because of the Chinese New Year.
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Its not surprise me mainstream GPU's late again..... sounds bad for AMD, and i think May launch will be in reality July.
I hope replacement not means new process technology and dx10, but with almost the same performance (max. +10%) in dx9.

AMD ever will be release something (from business aspect) in time again? :rolleyes:
 
Fu3lFr3nzy said:
Is that the best they can do? An OC'ed G80 to counter the R600? :rolleyes: :???:

Its certainly going to be interesting how the R600 performs against the 8800GTX and its sucessor :D

*depressed about having to wait a few more months to see any comparisons*
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What is the difference between an 80nm 7600 card and a 90nm card ?
 
vertex_shader said:
Its not surprise me mainstream GPU's late again..... sounds bad for AMD, and i think May launch will be in reality July.
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Do you have some actual reason to believe that, or just enjoying an AMD bash-fest?

Having said that, I still apply "Geo's rule", which is when you're talking about a new GPU any prediction more than two months out is a crapshoot; and by moving into May they move back into the circle of uncertainty. This is not, however, the same thing as saying "and therefore it'll probably actually be July."
 
Geo said:
Do you have some actual reason to believe that, or just enjoying an AMD bash-fest?

Having said that, I still apply "Geo's rule", which is when you're talking about a new GPU any prediction more than two months out is a crapshoot; and by moving into May they move back into the circle of uncertainty. This is not, however, the same thing as saying "and therefore it'll probably actually be July."
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My reason why i write that is the last 17 month, its enough reason i think :cry:
 
vertex_shader said:
My reason why i write that is the last 17 month, its enough reason i think :cry:
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Well, I feel ya, to a degree, but it was the specificity of the "July" thing I didn't like. That is liable to convince someone that what is in reality a generalized fear of lack of execution skill is in fact specific knowledge of something or other.

But, let's try a new one then to capture what you're really pointing at. "Geo's first rule of GPU motion: A GPU that has been delayed once tends to be delayed further." :cool: But that "tends" is crucial, because it doesn't always work out that way, or no delayed GPU would ever be released, and of course that's silly. G80, for instance, was delayed at least twice.
 
CJ said:
Some more information has been leaked and confirmed.

R600 XTX : 1GB Memory GDDR4
R600 XT: 512MB Memory GDDR4
R600 XL: 512MB Memory GDDR3

RV610 and RV630 were scheduled for April, but have been pushed back by a month to May and it could even become a bit later than that.

RV630 is the replacement for the X1650Pro and X1650XT.
RV610Pro & RV610LE are the replacements for the X1300 series.

And last but not least, in Q3 the RV670 will be launched which is the replacement for the popular X1950Pro.

The lowend and midrange AMD cards slipping a month (or more) doesn't have to be bad since nVidia hasn't shipped out their G84 and G86 designkits to manufacturers. And if they don't do it by early next week, the launch of their cards will most likely also slip from the end of March to April because of the Chinese New Year.
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can you comfirm the bus size on those cards? We all know that the xtx is getting the 512bit bus, but what about the xt and the xL? Also, I wonder if we will see a gto part from ATI.
 
Sound_Card said:
can you comfirm the bus size on those cards? We all know that the xtx is getting the 512bit bus, but what about the xt and the xL? Also, I wonder if we will see a gto part from ATI.
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Considering there were those four different strings, I think it's very possible we'll see a GT(O); perhaps a pre-cursor to the Rv670 which may be on 65nm kind of like x1900gt->x1950pro? If it does happen, I imagine it will be slightly later and be in order to clear stock in time for the replacement parts' release.

The only other thing that other string could be in my mind is Fudo's 'Uber Edition' which may have it's own bios, if it is actually a sanctioned product.

I'm all with you with wanting to know what buses they are though, although CJ's point to say which products they are replacing (ie Rv630 is replacing the x1600) shows they will both more than likely be low-end parts, with a 64-bit (Rv610) and 128-bit (Rv630) bus as rumored before. I imagine all R600 parts are the same (512-bit). The only thing I'm curious about is if there is a GTO, does it retain the 512-bit bus, and if the Rv670 is a replacement part for that, will it also have a 512-bit bus, or will it be cut down to 256-bit or something? Of course, then there's Rv660... :?:
 
turtle said:
Considering there were those four different strings, I think it's very possible we'll see a GT(O); perhaps a pre-cursor to the Rv670 which may be on 65nm kind of like x1900gt->x1950pro? If it does happen, I imagine it will be slightly later and be in order to clear stock in time for the replacement parts' release.

The only other thing that other string could be in my mind is Fudo's 'Uber Edition' which may have it's own bios, if it is actually a sanctioned product.

I'm all with you with wanting to know what buses they are though, although CJ's point to say which products they are replacing (ie Rv630 is replacing the x1600) shows they will both more than likely be low-end parts, with a 64-bit (Rv610) and 128-bit (Rv630) bus as rumored before. I imagine all R600 parts are the same (512-bit). The only thing I'm curious about is if there is a GTO, does it retain the 512-bit bus, and if the Rv670 is a replacement part for that, will it also have a 512-bit bus, or will it be cut down to 256-bit or something? Of course, then there's Rv660... :?:
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Actully I'm thinking that ATI is giveing all their cards a bus bump.:smile:

RV610 = 128bit
RV630 = 256bit

Don't know though. However I'm leaning towards that way. Hmmm, the x1800xl had a 256bit bus did it not?
 
Sound_Card said:
Actully I'm thinking that ATI is giveing all their cards a bus bump.:smile:

RV610 = 128bit
RV630 = 256bit

Don't know though. However I'm leaning towards that way. Hmmm, the x1800xl had a 256bit bus did it not?
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The X1800XL did have a 256-bit bus, it was just a slower X1800XT reject afterall.
 
No bus bumps for low/mainstream according to this: http://www.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=4630

VR-Zone has gotten some concrete information on the process technology and memory interface of RV610 and RV630. Both will be based on 65nm process technology from TSMC. RV610, the low end version will only have 64-bit memory interface and we have told you earlier that there will be 2 variants at launch; RV610LE which is DDR2 based and RV610PRO which is DDR3 based. The RV610LE card has 4 layers and consumes 25W of power while RV610PRO has 6 layers and consumes 35W of power. RV630, the mainstream version will have 128-bit memory interface and comes in 3 variants; DDR4, DDR3 and DDR2. The power consumption stood at 128W, 93W and 75W respectively. There will be samples in March and expected launch in April.
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