The LAST R600 Rumours & Speculation Thread

[Geeforcer]

I'll take the x800 over the 6800 any time. However tha nv sold more as usual: marketing competence.

IMO, NV40 was a superior product to R420.... but I'll save this discussion for another thread.

 

[IbaneZ]

IMO, NV40 was a superior product to R420.... but I'll save this discussion for another thread.

NV40 was easier to find sure..

 

[trinibwoy]

I'm bored with waiting for G80 DX10 performance and I'm bored with waiting for R600. Somebody gimme something to be excited about please

 

[Sobek]

IMO, NV40 was a superior product to R420.... but I'll save this discussion for another thread.

Oh...no no. Don't state an opinion and then try and block response by playing the "Not in this thread" card

Sure, if you liked at-the-time redundant features (sm3.0...honestly, when nv40 came out there was practically no use for it except in Far Cry). And let's not forget shimmer-central with a smattering of driver optimisations. There's also the lovely inbuilt wallhacks I found on a 6600 that were replicable across the board for 6 series cards. I've got an x800 256mb and a 6800gtoc 256mb here, and by and large the x800 looks better, plays smoother (there's a strange stutter on the 6800, almost like v-sync were on while it was running at 10fps). Probably the only thing that I find usefull on the 6800 is Image Sharpening and Colour Correction, those are pretty. rant rant rant

So what's the story on that 'R600' picture from VRzone, is it some kind of mockup image they made based on having seen one of them, or just a random image for the hell of it. The pro-nv nature of the site strikes discontent in thy heart.

 

[Geo]

Okayfine. Then I'll play the "not in this thread" card!

 

[DSC]

http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/7637

I have had an ATI X800 XT PE on order from ATI since the end of September. When I ordered it, I knew it was not yet in stock, but was told by ATI "end of October." When the time approached, I called again and was told "mid-November." Today I called and was told that they had received a "limited number" of cards which were released to fill "older orders." Now they are telling me that another production run would occur "by the end of December." I consider this to be outrageous and abusive of people who have supported them. This company deserves to receive a big black eye in the marketplace and suffer financially for their ineptitude.

 

[Geo]

I'm bored with waiting for G80 DX10 performance and I'm bored with waiting for R600. Somebody gimme something to be excited about please

I dunno, it's starting to feel to me like launch plans might actually be showing early indications of firming up. Should we start a "final predictions" threadlet for specs and launch date? :smile:

 

[Rangers]

I dunno, it's starting to feel to me like launch plans might actually be showing early indications of firming up. Should we start a "final predictions" threadlet for specs and launch date? :smile:

I new this wouldn't be the "last" R600 post as you attempted becase the damn thing will never come out

 

[icecold1983]

geo tell us when nda expires

 

[Geo]

Ha, I don't know when NDA begins.

 

[elroy]

Apologies if this has been posted already:

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5630

Could we also see the next gen G80 around the same time? Or is it too soon?

 

[Ailuros]

I rather doubt that Linux support is that big of an issue. I mean, it's the primary reason why I haven't really considered an ATI card, but I doubt it's an issue for most.

Personally I think it'll be much more important for the GPGPU stuff, where the G80 architecture in particular seems to excel. I wouldn't be surprised if we started to see some supercomputers built with dozens of G8x cores available for computing (I doubt we'll see anything really big until nVidia puts out some cores with double precision floating point capabilities).

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showpost.php?p=894577&postcount=4

I'm patiently waiting if and how much they could squeeze out of CUDA, but I have the feeling that in that department R600 will surpass the G80, otherwise the difference to R5x0 will be non-existant for GPGPU stuff.

 

[Suflex]

(there's a strange stutter on the 6800, almost like v-sync were on while it was running at 10fps)

So it wasn't me only, that stutter drove me crazy.

 

[zgemboandislic]

Ha, I don't know when NDA begins.

And that is a bad sign! How long are you usually under NDA, a month, two months?

 

[ChrisRay]

With the G80 we all ended up under NDA about 6 and half weeks before launch give or take.

 

[Jawed]

According to:

http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/x1950xtx/index.php?p=02

The second major factor appears to be GDDR4's use of half the addressing pins compared to GDDR3, using them for power and ground instead.

I'm curious to know, can GDDR3 and GDDR4 be pin-compatible?

Or, in other words, if R600 is designed for GDDR4, can it use GDDR3 if the configuration of the address bus differs like this?

Jawed

 

[Rys]

Or, in other words, if R600 is designed for GDDR4, can it use GDDR3 if the configuration of the address bus differs like this?

Jawed

There's no drop-in pin compatibility for the DRAMs like that, but the memory controller is compatible with both. So you need a PCB rev per DRAM type (as always).

 

[icecold1983]

god i hate this waiting game, especially knowing that people like dave baumen and rys probably know with 95% accuracy the specs and performance of the chip. i rly just wanna know if i should go out and sli my 8800s.

 

[Arun]

god i hate this waiting game, especially knowing that people like dave baumen and rys probably know with 95% accuracy the specs and performance of the chip.

If Dave didn't know that by now, I'd ponder if the R600 is releasing in 2008 or 2009, rather than in March or April.


Uttar

 

[zgemboandislic]

god i hate this waiting game, especially knowing that people like dave baumen and rys probably know with 95% accuracy the specs and performance of the chip. i rly just wanna know if i should go out and sli my 8800s.

Well it certanly won't be slower than 8800, not with a 6 months delay. But the real question is what the refresh of 8800 will be like (power consumption, performance, heat dissipation). Because by the time R600 is out, you will be comparing it to 8900 or something like that, 8800 will be history.