I want one.
Holy moly, the Core i5 13400F looks to be one helluva gaming chip.
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My future CPU is likely to be an Intel one.
How is Intel at compatibility between different generations of CPUs using a MOBO from a previous generation? 'Cos the other day talking to a guy in person he said me that he used to buy AMD CPUs because their new CPUs used to work with MOBOs from a previous generation.
If you're going by the 13400 (or locked 13th gen i5s in general) and that article I don't feel it's what you might think it'll be. Also my impressions is people are overhyping the locked i5s compared to reality, possibly because they think they are just slower 13600k's (more on this later).
First off the MSRP comparisons look better than they are because 1) Intel raised Intel ARK tray prices on 12th gen very recently. 2) Actual retail street prices is not the as the tray prices or MSRP
From a technical perspective the problem also is that while it seems they still have not come out and explicitly stated it the locked i5 chips are really "Alder Lake" and most of them will use the Alder Lake 8P+8E die. Albeit the 13400 will apparently be split between Alder Lake 8P+8E and Raptor 8P+16E dies, but it's not clear how the differences will be handled and what that would result in currently. Essentially this means at least if the 13400 is using the ADL die (or if the RPL shows no advantages) than it's effectively a slower 12600k (and more locked down).
So why does the above matter? Well the E-cores have questionable merits if your looking for peak per thead perf and latency performance, which gaming tends to fall under. The E-cores do add a lot more perf for sustained throughput based MT workloads however.
But ultimately the problem comes done to what else is on market. Forgot AMD and just looking at Intel -
13400 - $240 -
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1735135-REG/intel_bx8071513400_core_i5_13600k_3_5_ghz.html
12600k - $248 -
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod..._bx8071512600k_core_i5_12600k_8_core_lga.html
12400 - $188 -
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...71512400_core_i5_12400_desktop_processor.html
On the AMD side the problem also becomes an issue in that 7600/x will be likely faster in gaming even if slower in MT (although the higher platform adoption cost is another issue). While Zen 3 offerings on sale for gaming would be way better perf/$ (barely slower, much cheaper) until the deals dry up.
Although at current list prices the 13500 - $250 -
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1735134-REG/intel_bx8071513500_core_i5_13500_2_5_ghz.html
Is a much better consideration.
As for the platform upgrading angle, I don't think it's as useful as it's made out to be especially if you pay a premium for it. I'd take as situation dependent. Especially now with AM5/DDR5 you are paying a premium and early adopting. Imagine if say people paid a large premium for 3xx series chip AM4 boards and DDR4-3000. Sure it might be useable now but the platform/memory/performance is also dated and the same either as even later AM4/DDR4 (even just slightly later). You're also still taking a loss cycling out CPUs, and the double edge here also being that cheaper drop in CPU upgrades for a longer time also devalues the resale of your existing CPU more.
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