Tekken 4 realtime cinemas...

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crypto1300

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Has anyone seen the realtime cinemas for the character endings in Tekken 4? At first I thought it was FMV, but after a real hard look it was obvious that it was realtime. I must say that the cinemas are quite impressive, no aliasing, no shimmer & very clean. I even saw what appeared to be bumpmapping on a soldiers helmet.

Just thought I'd share my impressions of the cinemas.
 
Legion

All i remember from the japanese version is the FMV endings.
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If you're talking about the "Story Mode" character endings, the US version is not FMV, but is indeed game engine rendered. I never played the Japanese version though.
 
I only have the JP-version, where the ending cinemas indeed were "offline renders". However, they used the in-game models so a few people thought they were realtime also at the JP release. If the cinemas are the same I strongly doubt Namco has fine-tuned their engine to the point where those are possible to do in realtime. Basically, there was too much shadowing to calculate per frame and too much geometry/textures to hold in memory without loading between cuts.

Got any captures/movies from the US endings?
 
VNZ,

I guess I could've mistaken the FMV endings for game engine cutscenes, but they sure made a good effort to use the game models & similar textures/geometry from the game engine itself. And, if I recall correctly the endings in TTT were definetly done by the game engine.
 
No, Crypto, I'm pretty sure the endings in TTT were all pre-rendered. :-?

So who's all getting Tekken 4 on Friday? I wasn't going to, but after going back and playing DOA3, VF4, and TTT, I decided that my heart belongs to Tekken... I'm getting it. :LOL:

Kolgar
 
Kolgar said:
No, Crypto, I'm pretty sure the endings in TTT were all pre-rendered. :-?

So who's all getting Tekken 4 on Friday? I wasn't going to, but after going back and playing DOA3, VF4, and TTT, I decided that my heart belongs to Tekken... I'm getting it. :LOL:

Kolgar
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How are ya Kolgar?

I'll probably just wait and rent Tekken 4. Too many other games coming out that I want more. Although it's a must-rent as the first (decent) progressive-scan Ps2 game :p
 
Hi, Ozy. I'm well. Still spending most of my time at the other place. Trader finally gave up and called it quits months ago. ;)

I'm totally loving this generation of games and systems. My PS2 and Xbox both get a lot of use - there are some great, great games for each of them. My poor Gamecube has been relegated to the spare room, however - not enough games I want to play. (As usual - thanks, Nintendo.)

Anyway, looking forward to Tekken 4. Also the new Need for Speed, Burnout 2, Unreal Championship, and others I can't remember right now. Just wish I had the willpower to hold out until I finish Munch and JSRF.

Kolgar
 
Kolgar said:
No, Crypto, I'm pretty sure the endings in TTT were all pre-rendered. :-?

So who's all getting Tekken 4 on Friday? I wasn't going to, but after going back and playing DOA3, VF4, and TTT, I decided that my heart belongs to Tekken... I'm getting it. :LOL:

Kolgar
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Just popped in TTT & I'm almost positive the endings are realtime. Can anyone verify if possible. Although, Tekken 4 endings could probably be pre-rendered as they are extremely clean, but utilizing the game engine style rather than the FMV intro style.
 
This IS easy to check you know... Just take off the cover, if the DVDROM spins up when the sequence plays then it is FMV. :)

*G*

PS: The PS2:s drive is kinda noisy I've noticed. It could be sufficient to just turn off the sound and listen too.
 
Yup, the TTT endings are indeed realtime (the fact that they all are staged in in-game scenery is sort of a give-away). Tetsujin's ending are particularly impressive with some 50 Mokujins mimicking his moves, all with shadows (and a bit unsynchronized). Also, they show that both the character models and the backgrounds are much more detailed than its Soul Calibur counterparts - contrary to popular belief. Great game overall. :)

I confirmed that the endings in the US and PAL versions of Tekken 4 are identical to the JP ones, ie prerendered. Can't say I liked them really, with Jin's and Law's as the most notable exceptions.
 
VNZ said:
Yup, the TTT endings are indeed realtime (the fact that they all are staged in in-game scenery is sort of a give-away). Tetsujin's ending are particularly impressive with some 50 Mokujins mimicking his moves, all with shadows (and a bit unsynchronized). Also, they show that both the character models and the backgrounds are much more detailed than its Soul Calibur counterparts - contrary to popular belief. Great game overall. :)

I confirmed that the endings in the US and PAL versions of Tekken 4 are identical to the JP ones, ie prerendered. Can't say I liked them really, with Jin's and Law's as the most notable exceptions.
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Cool, thanks for not making me think I'm crazy. They really made the Tekken 4 endings seem very realtime like though. Probably to make the gameplay & cinemas flow into one another more fluidly.
 
I´m getting it. I enjoyed TTT quite a bit, and while some reviews made me doubt, I realized that they were just complaining that it didn´t evolve enough, but that it still was a kick-ass game, so I´m still getting it.
 
Logan Leonhart said:
I´m getting it. I enjoyed TTT quite a bit, and while some reviews made me doubt, I realized that they were just complaining that it didn´t evolve enough, but that it still was a kick-ass game, so I´m still getting it.
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I bought Tekken 4, SegaGT 2002, & StarFox lastnight. But, I was only able to get some playtime with Tekken 4. I have to say that I enjoy the game at least as much as TTT & DOA3, which I had bleeding thumbs by the time I was done playing.
 
Heh, sorry about that. As I remembered it, the TTT end movies were FMV...

Guess I should have played through a different mode last night - the "Tag" game doesn't show end movies.

By the way, you got T4 last night? Must've come out early, hm?

Kolgar
 
Kolgar said:
Heh, sorry about that. As I remembered it, the TTT end movies were FMV...

Guess I should have played through a different mode last night - the "Tag" game doesn't show end movies.

By the way, you got T4 last night? Must've come out early, hm?

Kolgar
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I got it at Software Etc. here in Hawaii. They had tons of 'em.
 
Just rented Tekken 4 and beat it with Steve. Those are FMV endings. The reason why they look real time is because they're bad FMV :p

btw, the game is atrocious. First Tekken I've ever played, and the last. It's like the game forces itself into mediocrity, as in its not nearly as indepth as Virtua Fighter, but its not button-masher friendly like DOA, thereby sticking it in the middle, badly. I'll take Akira & VF anyday!

zurich
 
Ha! Sorry you don't like it. Me, it's my game. For some reason, I clearly prefer the Tekken games to VF or DOA. :-?
 
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