Steve Irwin has died...

[digitalwanderer]

A buddy of mine who was a big Steve Irwin fan said that he remembers Steve saying in an interview if he was ever killed on camera he'd want the film made public.

I don't have reason to doubt my buddy, but it seems weird.

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

Not sure Germaine Greer would like that idea so much: GREER: 'IRWIN'S DEATH WAS ANIMAL WORLD'S REVENGE'.

Silly bitch.

Yeah, I guess Greer being such an expert in zoology and conservation, she's bound to be right . She must know loads of ways of rescuing snakes and crocodiles while not "stressing" them.

Irwin did terrible things to animals all of his career - saving them, buying parkland for conservation, breeding endangered species, raising awareness of endangered species, raising the profile of Austrailian conservation, etc. Heck, we've even seen him on film rescuing animals from up trees while bush fires are burning around him.

I'm really sure they'll be naming national monuments after Greer for all the selfless good she's done in her homeland.

 

[JacksBleedingEyes]

Tried to look up Germaine Greer on wikipedia. The page had been recently locked due to heavy vandalism. Looks like were not the only ones who think she's a silly bitch.

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

Steve Irwin's family refused a state funeral as "that's not what Steve would have wanted".

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Germaine! Not that they'll be anyone will be giving her family the opportunity to turn down a state funeral.

 

[Cartoon Corpse]

Well the guy who made his living harassing (threatening to the animals no doubt) wildlife got his just desserts IMO (not that i wished that on him). calling it 'conservation'. sheesh. it was just a matter of time, till the 'expert' got schooled.

now we have 30 clones of him doing the same dumb things.

 

[Guden Oden]

Airing real life deaths over public television, at least here in America, is unheard of.

Au contraire, you have aired tons of deaths on shows like world's wildest police videos, and by extension most likely, america's dumbest criminals too etc. Granted, you don't actually see the person(s) croaking, but there's no doubt that the occupants of a speeding car get smushed to bits when they're rammed straight on the side by an 18-wheeler after running a red light, everything dutifully caught on VHS tape by the police dash-mounted camera...

 

[Razor1]

Not sure Germaine Greer would like that idea so much: GREER: 'IRWIN'S DEATH WAS ANIMAL WORLD'S REVENGE'.

Silly bitch.

What a stupid inconciderate bitch

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

Well the guy who made his living harassing (threatening to the animals no doubt) wildlife got his just desserts IMO (not that i wished that on him). calling it 'conservation'. sheesh. it was just a matter of time, till the 'expert' got schooled.

now we have 30 clones of him doing the same dumb things.

Yeah, should have just let all those animals die or get shot. In the last couple of programs I half-watched, Irwin:

- rescued a huge crocodile trapped in heavy netting (no darting or drugs used).

- jumped over a burning bush fire in order to rescue a burned koala (which was then taken back to Australia Zoo to be healed before being released back into the wild. You know Irwin owned/ran/expanded Australia Zoo, right?)

- pulled about 20 venemous snakes from the bottom of a grain silo rather than let the farmer kill them.

- rescued a baby kangaroo from the pouch of the dead mother hit by a car and dead by the side of a road. Was hand-reared by Australia Zoo staff before being put back into the wild.

- drive around the land he had bought and was replanting to turn it from razed scrub back into natural habitat for native flora and fauna.

This is just the sort of stuff he did on a personal level, as well as getting the more global message out on conservation and participating on many wildlife preservation projects and training. He pretty much personally stopped the plans in Australia to allow "hunting parties" for people to pay to come and shoot crocodiles for fun.

So although you can say the guy was a self-drawn characature, or even just plain annoying, you can't put him on the level of someone "harassing" animals for the fun of it.

Sure, Irwin was no David Attenborough, there's no "Blue Planet" or "Life On Earth" in his legacy, but he got very personally involved in the animals he dealt with, and got his conservation message across in a different way, to a different audience that otherwise wouldn't know anything about it.

Given the number of people "harassing" animals by killing them for pleasure and profit, or just plain old destroying their environment, I hardly think you can accuse Irwin of "harrasment" while he endeavoured to save animals on both the small level and the global scale.

 

[Zapata]

To everybody in this thread who is majorly p#ssed off about Germaine Greer's comments about the death of Steve Irwin, in two words me too, I find her detestable and it is just the sort of thing I would expect her to say.

I have posted her Guardian article http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,1865124,00.html in,

Religion, Politics & Socioeconomic Climate, forum of this site.

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?p=824658#post824658

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=27

NB Why I posted that item in Religion, Politics & Socioeconomic Climate is that I would find it very difficult to talk about Ms Greer without involving politics and I did not want to violate the no politics rule of General Discussion threads.

Saludos Amigos
Zapata

 

[Dresden]

Au contraire, you have aired tons of deaths on shows like world's wildest police videos, and by extension most likely, america's dumbest criminals too etc. Granted, you don't actually see the person(s) croaking, but there's no doubt that the occupants of a speeding car get smushed to bits when they're rammed straight on the side by an 18-wheeler after running a red light, everything dutifully caught on VHS tape by the police dash-mounted camera...

I don't know of an instance where a publicly displayed police chase wasn't on a delay, for that matter specifically. In case a sharpshooter decides to lean out the window of a police cruiser and end the chase abruptly for fear of public safety. That doesn't mean dashboard cameras are on delays. I've seen a plethora, PLETHORA, of police dashboard videos that took a turn for the worse, most of which were stops that wen't awry, though, therefore not a highspeed chase turned shootout.

 

[Dresden]

Irwin did terrible things to animals all of his career - saving them, buying parkland for conservation, breeding endangered species, raising awareness of endangered species, raising the profile of Austrailian conservation, etc. Heck, we've even seen him on film rescuing animals from up trees while bush fires are burning around him

SELFLESS ACTS! I WON'T TOLERATE SUCH BEHAVIOR!!!


His life was absolutely incredible, INCREDIBLE, and his impact was unprecedented. He will be sorely missed.

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

SELFLESS ACTS! I WON'T TOLERATE SUCH BEHAVIOR!!!


His life was absolutely incredible, INCREDIBLE, and his impact was unprecedented. He will be sorely missed.

No one's a saint, no matter how fondly they are remembered after they unexpectedly die, but one thing Irwin wasn't was some kind of animal abuser. I'm amazed that Greer or anyone else could even suggest such a thing, but I guess some people like to make their name by fashionably trashing the reputation of others because they don't agree with the public's expression of loss/admiration for the efforts he made.

 

[zed]

Seriously, I'd say Angus Young.

yeah hes an obvious candidate, unfortunatly he was born + grew up in scotland until he was 8 so i dont know if he'ld be considered a true ozzie.

imagine the conversion with him + ozzy + keef in a room
THE THREE WISE MEN
A '.. yeah fuck.."
B '.. fuck yeah.."
C '.. I donno ... fuck..'

front runner for 'greatest living australian' angus young

 

[Sobek]

Oh man i'm a wreck over this...first Steve dies, and JUST as I passed Australia Zoo on my way back from Brisbane (bought back the sadness), I get a call from the vet informing me that my dog has cancer.

I don't know if I can deal with this...now I have to face facts that very likely we're going to have to make the decision at some stage to have her euthanised, because there's no way she'll just go quietly in her sleep.



goddamn you life, give me a break.

 

[Geo]

Oh man i'm a wreck over this...first Steve dies, and JUST as I passed Australia Zoo on my way back from Brisbane (bought back the sadness), I get a call from the vet informing me that my dog has cancer.

I don't know if I can deal with this...now I have to face facts that very likely we're going to have to make the decision at some stage to have her euthanised, because there's no way she'll just go quietly in her sleep.



goddamn you life, give me a break.

"Her", you say? What kind of cancer? We had cancer surgery on a cat --she lasted another couple years, and passed away from old age at about 18.

 

[Sobek]

"Her", you say? What kind of cancer? We had cancer surgery on a cat --she lasted another couple years, and passed away from old age at about 18.

We've yet to hear back regarding what type of cancer it is. Basically, for the last year or so she's been having the occasion trouble with her breathing, where she does a 'reverse sneeze', as it's called, and effectively looks like she's sucking air in really hard. We were told this was fairly normal in some older dogs that tend to breate in incorrectly, and sure enough, googling seemed to backup that point.

After god knows how many tests and a biopsy, we could find no sign of any fungal infections (as it was initially thought). For the last few months she's occasionally coughed/sneezed up a LOT of blood. Sometimes the sneezes were so voilent it made me cringe...it's disturbing to think about that again.

So we just took her down earlier today to have a small hole drilled into her head around her sinus, to get a detailed image of what was going on in there, and perhaps perform a flush if it was indeed a fungal infection. That's when they found the cancer...it's lodged itself good into the sinus apparently...that's all I know.

I'm an absolute wreck now, if this turns out to be really bad, I don't know how i'm going to cope. We've had Jessica since as early as I can remember...a vet nearby was going to have her put down, but was kind enough to call and ask us to come in and check her out....needless to say we fell in love with her the moment we saw her. People say when their animal dies it's like loosing a member of the family. That really just doesn't sink in until it happens, or is about to happen, to you.

 

[Cartoon Corpse]

Given the number of people "harassing" animals by killing them for pleasure and profit, or just plain old destroying their environment, I hardly think you can accuse Irwin of "harrasment" while he endeavoured to save animals on both the small level and the global scale.

the only time i've seen Irwin is when he's UNECESSARILY harrassing wildlife or captive wildlife.

i highly doubt he just 'comes across' such a number (as you've listed) of wild animals, in the wilderness needing to be rescued with regularity. probably STAGED situations....do you know so little about television programming?

SO MANY people are such disney dumbasses. just suck up whatever is on TV and call it 'reality'.

here's a FACT for ya...there was a DISNEY 'wildlife' special where they showed LEMMINGS 'commiting suicide' by jumping en masse from a cliff.....(hence all the lemming jokes that came to explain (ironically) disney dumbass people)

years later, it was revealed that just OFF CAMERA a group of people were 'herding'...yelling and waving sticks and stuff terrifying the lemmings into running and FALLING off the cliff in a PANIC.

so don't give me a laundry list of ON CAMERA 'good deeds' as evidence of Irwin being anything OTHER than the normal "shake them, see if they'll fight.." (farside cartoon) pretard that he IS/WAS.

pretards are all the same. threatening and harrassing are just 2 of their despicable qualities that they are COMPLETELY oblivious to.

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

i highly doubt he just 'comes across' such a number (as you've listed) of wild animals, in the wilderness needing to be rescued with regularity. probably STAGED situations....do you know so little about television programming?

Irwin owned and ran Australia Zoo. You think it's difficult to have a camera man and a soundman follow him around when he goes out on his normal work, or when a farmer or member of the public calls him out? You think it's hard to find a kangaroo knocked down by the side of a road in Australia? Or are you suggesting he killed the mother just so he could "save" the baby? Maybe you're going to suggest Irwin also started bush fires so he could go out there filming them because there aren't enough bush fires or animals burned in them every year in Australia?

You think it's difficult to make 25 minutes of TV from following Irwin doing his normal job over the space of a week or two? He didn't have to arrange for anything to happen just for the cameras. He simply had normal (to him) things happening and got the cameras to come along at the same time. A farmer calls up to say he has a load of posionous snakes or a crocodile on his land, and Irwin goes out to pick it up and brings the camera crew with him, not the other way around.

You just have to look at any documentary that follows people during their normal day at a zoo or safari park, and there's plenty to film without needing to arrange anything.

 

[Sobek]

Just an FYI to anyone who gets sent a link supposedly showing Steve Irwins death video. It starts out very convincingly, but quickly turns into something...less amicable.

When a man loves a horse, really.

Sick bastards.