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I think standard HD side here is now 50". Used to be that cheap EDTV plasmas were 42". Now it seems 50" is the standard and it only goes up from there. Whether DLP, LCD, or Plasma, most stores I go to now demo sets that large and bigger.

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Google "average TV size." You won't find 50" anywhere. You'll see numbers from 25" to 32", depending on who's writing and in what context. A 42" plasma HDTV will set you back $1300 for the cheapest model Best Buy offers--who considers over a grand cheap? What planet do you live on?
 
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DemoCoder said:
I think standard HD side here is now 50". Used to be that cheap EDTV plasmas were 42". Now it seems 50" is the standard and it only goes up from there. Whether DLP, LCD, or Plasma, most stores I go to now demo sets that large and bigger.

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I still see tons of 42" and 46" screens everywhere.
 
DemoCoder said:
I think standard HD side here is now 50". Used to be that cheap EDTV plasmas were 42". Now it seems 50" is the standard and it only goes up from there. Whether DLP, LCD, or Plasma, most stores I go to now demo sets that large and bigger.

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I don't buy that at all. Just a quick link:
http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/Category.asp?Category=264

I see one 50" TV on this category page. This is obviously not anything close to a scientific sample, but if the average newly-bought TV from Newegg was 50", you'd expect most of the TV's on a list like this to be right around 50" in size.
 
Shifty Geezer said:
45" huh? Pretty large. Of course, I expect most of our NA members think that's barely suitable for a kitchen worktop TV and look to their 60" TVs as a reasonable interim until they get their 120" projectors ;)

I'm living in a college apartment next year and we'll have a 34" HDTV in our living room. Of course, I picked it up out of the trash and repaired it. (yay Monivision)

For my dorm room right now, I'd imagine anything over 24" might be a little bit too big. Currently I use a 19" LCD and a viewsonic n6 for my tv viewing, and it works pretty well for my purposes. With a 21", I could play smash brothers quite well from my bed though.
 
I'm talking about going into a Magnolia, Circuit City, Good Guys, Frys NOT online retailers. The majority of the "set up" demo displays are 50" or greater. Anything smaller usually gets shelf space.

At all the Fry's I've been to, 42" instances sit on shelves, they do not have any demo setups.

Moreover, no one I know who has bought an HDTV for their living room bought something smaller than 50". Your screen size should be roughly 1/2 your seating distance wide. That means if you sit over 7ft, you better have a 50" set for optimal viewing conditions.
 
DemoCoder said:
Moreover, no one I know who has bought an HDTV for their living room bought something smaller than 50".
But your the "people you know" are probably mostly people within a similar economic and cultural demographic. As such they are more likely to share aspects of your life than you than a person picked totally at random in the US.

As for myself, for example, I have no friends that have HDTV's (I'm still in grad school....most of my friends don't even watch much TV), and of the three family members who have HDTV's, only one is near 50".
 
Chalnoth said:
But your the "people you know" are probably mostly people within a similar economic and cultural demographic. As such they are more likely to share aspects of your life than you than a person picked totally at random in the US.

As for myself, for example, I have no friends that have HDTV's (I'm still in grad school....most of my friends don't even watch much TV), and of the three family members who have HDTV's, only one is near 50".

None of my close friends or family have HDTVs. Well, in my house there's an HDTV in my parent's bedroom, but only because my mom wanted an LCD screen (cause they're flat) and the salesman sold them on how great this one.....she's still disappointed in the picture quality. She also watches standard cable stretched out to 16:9. It's only like a 30".
In our living room, we have a 60" 1996 standard TV with rather poor image quality.
Hmm, I have a cousin who owns a Wega and is a pretty big videophile/Macphile (which already means his judgement is dubious), and another cousin with a Panasonic HDTV that is completely set up wrong and they don't even realize it's HD and only got it because a know-it-all cousin (who knows very little) told them to get it. Of course, he doesn't even know it's an HDTV, he thought it was but was then so disappointed with the image quality that he thinks they were sold a normal TV instead. I think it's a 42" though and is in one of their living rooms. The other living room has a 25~" standard TV, yet it's hooked up to sattelite tv and originally digital cable while the HDTV gets SDTV feeds.

Hmm, I have one rich friend who's family just got an expensive DLP TV in their basement (to amplify their moving viewing experience, along with a surround sound system), and though they were impressed with the default results, thankfully they were still willing to let me help set it up for them and started commenting on how much better the experience was. Basically, I showed them the wonders of component cables and progressive scan, the alternative viewing modes offered by their TV, and showed that a simple RCA cable plugged into the coaxial port on and switching from pro logic to dolby digital can greatly improve sound quality. The father, upon seeing soul calibur 2, stated "Wow, the arcades are going to go out of business now," and felt that watching spiderman in dolby digital was like being in a movie theater.

Man, I really shouldn't be typing all that. I have my physics final tomorrow, a physics lab paper to retouch, an engineering lab report that I have to write my part and then put the group's work together (please guys, I know you've been messing up all semester and I've had to rewrite and reresearch EVERYTHING you've done, but please get things right just this once so I can sleep tonight!), and a 6 to 8 page world lit report which I haven't started doing anything for. Oh well, I'll have an HDTV next semester, woohoo!
Oh, and since 2003 I've been using transcoders to play my game consoles on my computer monitors. First a 21" sun workstation monitor (probably deeper than the length of the diagonal though), currently a 19" hyundai lcd, and that's about the most HD that anyone in my life experiences. Quite nice for a college student on a budget though.
 
c0_re said:
Well Wii has a true DX8-9 GPU right?(unlike NGC)

If IGN is to be belived then it probably not (I doubt that many would call that a extension of the flipper).

Anyway there had been rumors of a X1600 like GPU.



OT:Not really related to the name but it is fun anyway.

Someone should tell him that foxs cant talk etc... too.
 
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pc999 said:
If IGN is to be belived then it probably not (I doubt that many would call that a extension of the flipper).

Anyway there had been rumors of a X1600 like GPU.



OT:Not really related to the name but it is fun anyway.

Someone should tell him that foxs cant talk etc... too.

I can talk...
Anyhow, it's a shame that Star Fox Adventures looks considerably better graphically than Star Fox Assault.
 
Well, that's not necessarily anything directly against people not worrying about HD in consoles, as there is a format war going on with high-def DVD's, which may be influencing part of that decision.
 
I know, it is just a note on the general interest in HD, while consoles are a lower set of this market if you are aiming for real mass market (like Nintendo and, if you belive in all the 1B gamers (BS IMO) from last year XB E3, MS too) then you must consider this numbers too.
 
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Chalnoth said:
As for myself, for example, I have no friends that have HDTV's (I'm still in grad school....most of my friends don't even watch much TV), and of the three family members who have HDTV's, only one is near 50".

I'm still in graduate school too, and most my friends think I'm really living large with my 24" RCA CRT with S-Video inputs. A friend of min has a 32" with a component input...man is his TV awesome!
 
london-boy said:
:LOL: i just noticed your sig...

talented, isn't he? ; )
you can also notice that people have been putting 'MuFu' as their signatures ; ))
 
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