http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2134
Looks interesting . 9600 gpu on board video would be a very nice jump over the nforce 2 intergrated video and intell intergrated video
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http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2134
Looks interesting . 9600 gpu on board video would be a very nice jump over the nforce 2 intergrated video and intell intergrated video
RS350 was classed as having integrated 9200 - it wasn't until it turned up do you find that there was no VS and half the pipelines. Although there will almost certainly be DX9 functionality, it'd be best to wait to see the details of the implementation before you can consider its performance - having said that, I can't see ATI wanting to let the performance go to Intel, as that would be somewhat of an embarrasment.
Hopefully some more of the HyperZ techniques will translate across as this should be useful when relying in system bandwidths.
Hopefully some more of the HyperZ techniques will translate across as this should be useful when relying in system bandwidths.
RS480 was the codename that was bandied around at the AMD conference a while back.
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Funny they should still be mentioning this. Wasn't it their article that showed ATI performing much better than even Intel's chipsets once a Prescott is thrown in? I don't recall the 925X doing nearly as well with Prescott.Anandtech said:
I'd be very surprised if ATI decreases performance from RS350. So long as they don't, they should have a real winner on their hands. Now it's just a matter of when they can roll it out of the door...
Still, its performance was quite close to the 9200 - slower than a 128bit 9200, but faster than the 64bit version. And it supported exactly the same features (not all in hardware though). Maybe it would have been more honest to call it "9200 derived".DaveBaumann said:
However, I don't think it's possible this time to remove 2 pipelines, as the 9600 consists of a single quad pipeline (and if I understand that correctly, it might be non-trivial to break it up). And I doubt ATI wants to engeneer a completely new chip. So my bet would be a 4 pixel pipe chip (this part identical the the 9600), though possibly without (or with 1?) vertex shader. Though maybe you know more about it than I do...
To what of the HyperZ features are you refering? RS350 also retained all HyperZ features that the 9000/9200 had, I doubt it's different this time. But I don't think Hierarchical-Z will make a comeback.
Are there no longer plans for IGPs for Athlon64 systems? There were some rumours that it is a problem because the IGP couldn't access ram directly. AMD told though that it shouldn't be a major problem, but fact is there are NO IGPs at all available for A64 systems today.
mczak said:
Chipset:
http://www.via.com.tw/en/k8-series/k8m800.jsp
System:
http://tech-report.com/reviews/2004q2/shuttle-sk83g/index.x?pg=1
But let's just say that it's 3D performance is nothing to brag about
This was the same situation with 900/9200 and IGP 9100.
R(v)2x0 has no early Z rejection and the Z compression is less. There is also no colour compression for AA.
I was under the impression though that the 4 pipelines are tied together more closely for this generation. That might just be my perception though :?DaveBaumann said:
IF 2 pipelines can be more or less easily removed, it would actually make a lot of sense - ATI now sells 9550 with a chip clock of only 250Mhz, so cutting two pipes and clocking it a lot higher (something like 450-500Mhz probably should be no problem) should just give the same performance while save a lot of transistors (and should probably still beat the GMA900). It's probably safe to say ATI is not aiming for 9600Pro performance...
Ah, forgot about those. Does that stuff use a lot of transistors? If so I'd think especially color compression (no competitor offers fast AA on IGP or even low-end card) is likely to go.
DaveBaumann said:
Although that wasn't too surprising (did anyone really think it'd have hardware vertex processing?). I'll be surprised if the integrated 9600 core has more than 2 pipelines or if it has hardware vertex processing (although I won't mind being pleasantly surprised). Bandwidth limitations make more than 2 pipelines a bit redundant anyway (unless the core runs at a very low speed, which it probably won't).
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/ati-powercons_10.html
9600pro only takes 9 watts under load.
That is under .13. Under .11 it should use less and would take up less transistors .
I can see them putting in a full 9600 in this bad guy.
A mobile version would also be really likely
9600pro only takes 9 watts under load.
That is under .13. Under .11 it should use less and would take up less transistors .
I can see them putting in a full 9600 in this bad guy.
A mobile version would also be really likely
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