Our goal with the Cell is to be an order of magnitude faster

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  1. McFly

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    But then where are the pins? On the other side of the chip?

    Fredi
     
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    That coin should have a 26.5 mm diameter. Coin area should be about 550 mm2 ;)
     
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    I can't see pin shadows against that coin...
     
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    So there are... other places.... with creatures that live beyond our borders?
    But we are told not stray into their place, and they do not come into ours.
     
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    Ok, after looking at the picture, I can discern that the shorter side of the chip rectangle is exactly half the diameter (13.25mm), and longer is about 0.8399060% of the diameter (I have very sharp eyes), giving me 22.257508 mm.

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    OMG CELL has a die area of 294.912 mm2 :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
     
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    Is that much or little :?
     
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    At least it will be funny to see how our super-accurate measures are off record once the real die area will be public :)
     
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    I don't know my coin dimension, but I know my choc chips :) And I'll second that :shock: (Unless they have smaller chock chips over there)

    much :D
     
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    My rough estimate was 235.3-253.3 mm².

    I couldn't really take the angle of the picture into account. Plus, my math could be wrong. :)
     
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    Emh..cough...Have you actually measured your chock chips? :shock:
     
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    If someone wants to make an estimate based on the chocolate chip picture, I think it would be better to use the teaspoon as a reference. :p
     
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    There are no pins on a chip. Instead there are pads to which gold wires are bonded. These in turn then go to the pins/balls of the package.

    IIRC, the pads are usually located around the outside of the device.
     
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    cock chips? :shock: what the hell is that
     
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    So equivalent to more than 17x17mm - that's a big one.
     
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    David Wang posted a few tidbits @ Real World Tech

    Die size in 90um: 206mm^2

    Probably power constrained.

    Cheers
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    Guess I forgot my choc chip are supersize :)

    Pretty much expected die size for 90nm Cell.
     
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    That's pretty niffty info :)
     
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    Xbox2????
     
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    Ah well, my joke was shortlived...
    I guess I also didn't pimp the 294 number enough in GFlops thread already :p

    Anyway great info, thanks Gubbi.
     
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    Seems most of the specs is spot on in regard to estimates: 1 PE with 8APUs (or SPEs if you like) @ 4GHz. The PPE is simple and dumb (scalar), but fast (4GHz).

    Very good peak FP performance with 256GFLOPS (unless you're Deadmeat)

    The entire thing is power constrained at 50-70W @ 4GHz, so not much hope for doubling up on PEs (even in 65 nm).

    Cheers
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