Our goal with the Cell is to be an order of magnitude faster

[McFly]

"Our goal with the Cell is to be an order of magnitude faster" ... than our competition.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/07/t...45125c3d&ei=5040&partner=MOREOVERNEWS

That will make for a fascinating rivalry: Sony is betting that its computer horsepower advantage will be large enough to give it a quality advance over Microsoft, even if it arrives late.

"Our goal with the Cell is to be an order of magnitude faster," said Lisa Su, an I.B.M. executive in charge of technology development and licenses.

There are some other interesting parts in the article.

And here's a BBC article about Cell: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4242447.stm

Reuters: http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q10D25A6A

Fredi

 

[V3]

first pic of Cell

 

[rabidrabbit]

Are those 8 the "APU"'s.
It's tiny, A PS3 should be able to fit several of those, at least for their size.

 

[one]

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20280

 

[Entropy]

Re: Our goal with the Cell is to be an order of magnitude fa

That will make for a fascinating rivalry: Sony is betting that its computer horsepower advantage will be large enough to give it a quality advance over Microsoft, even if it arrives late.

"Our goal with the Cell is to be an order of magnitude faster," said Lisa Su, an I.B.M. executive in charge of technology development and licenses.

Hmm.
In that position, she should be pretty well informed about what is going into XBox2.

An "order of magnitude faster" at what though? Add that "goal" comment, and her back is quite well covered. Nevertheless, from someone in her position, it's an interesting quote.

 

[one]

Re: Our goal with the Cell is to be an order of magnitude fa

That will make for a fascinating rivalry: Sony is betting that its computer horsepower advantage will be large enough to give it a quality advance over Microsoft, even if it arrives late.

"Our goal with the Cell is to be an order of magnitude faster," said Lisa Su, an I.B.M. executive in charge of technology development and licenses.

Hmm.
In that position, she should be pretty well informed about what is going into XBox2.

An "order of magnitude faster" at what though? Add that "goal" comment, and her back is quite well covered. Nevertheless, from someone in her position, it's an interesting quote.

Isn't it a usual journalistic collage? Like actually asking about Celeron and Cell, and putting the answer just after they write about Xbox 2.

 

[V3]

Are those 8 the "APU"'s.
It's tiny, A PS3 should be able to fit several of those, at least for their size.

Rough guesstimate, I would say around 150 mm2 give or take 50 mm2.

 

[one]

Are those 8 the "APU"'s.
It's tiny, A PS3 should be able to fit several of those, at least for their size.

Is this the real chip? If so, The 4PE BE seems feasible in the 65nm process...

 

[London Geezer]

Are those 8 the "APU"'s.
It's tiny, A PS3 should be able to fit several of those, at least for their size.

Rough guesstimate, I would say around 150 mm2 give or take 50 mm2.

And it depends on what process that chip in the picture is using. 90nm?
If the BE really is at 65nm like rumoured, then it will be even smaller. That's quite tiny already.

 

[PC-Engine]

Are those 8 the "APU"'s.
It's tiny, A PS3 should be able to fit several of those, at least for their size.

That's not tiny. What you're looking at is the core not the whole cpu package. The package depending on the number of pins would be about 4 times as big.

 

[V3]

And it depends on what process that chip in the picture is using. 90nm?
If the BE really is at 65nm like rumoured, then it will be even smaller. That's quite tiny already.

Yes picture is on 90nm, so 65nm BE with 4 Cells is around 300-400 mm2.

 

[Wunderchu]

Re: Our goal with the Cell is to be an order of magnitude fa

"Our goal with the Cell is to be an order of magnitude faster" ... than our competition.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/07/t...45125c3d&ei=5040&partner=MOREOVERNEWS

That will make for a fascinating rivalry: Sony is betting that its computer horsepower advantage will be large enough to give it a quality advance over Microsoft, even if it arrives late.

"Our goal with the Cell is to be an order of magnitude faster," said Lisa Su, an I.B.M. executive in charge of technology development and licenses.

There are some other interesting parts in the article.

And here's a BBC article about Cell: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4242447.stm

Reuters: http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q10D25A6A

Fredi

this goal fits with their previous comments that, "Moore's Law is too slow" [source: http://news.com.com/2100-1040-866288.html ]

 

[London Geezer]

Are those 8 the "APU"'s.
It's tiny, A PS3 should be able to fit several of those, at least for their size.

That's not tiny. What you're looking at is the core not the whole cpu package. The package depending on the number of pins would be about 4 times as big.

Huh? If that thing on the picture is a Cell core, then it's safe to assume that the BE will have more than one. Especially if it's going to be fabbed at 65nm.

 

[PC-Engine]

Are those 8 the "APU"'s.
It's tiny, A PS3 should be able to fit several of those, at least for their size.

That's not tiny. What you're looking at is the core not the whole cpu package. The package depending on the number of pins would be about 4 times as big.

Huh? If that thing on the picture is a Cell core, then it's safe to assume that the BE will have more than one. Especially if it's going to be fabbed at 65nm.

Sure but it's still not tiny...150^2mm for one PE on 90nm process is not tiny.

 

[London Geezer]

Are those 8 the "APU"'s.
It's tiny, A PS3 should be able to fit several of those, at least for their size.

That's not tiny. What you're looking at is the core not the whole cpu package. The package depending on the number of pins would be about 4 times as big.

Huh? If that thing on the picture is a Cell core, then it's safe to assume that the BE will have more than one. Especially if it's going to be fabbed at 65nm.

Sure but it's still not tiny...150^2mm for one PE on 90nm process is not tiny.

Ok, not tiny. Small enough though? I think that's more important than one's idea of "tiny".

 

[V3]

Sure but it's still not tiny...150^2mm for one PE on 90nm process is not tiny.

Its about the size of 180nm Flipper at 120 mm2. But what you expect, the PE has 9 cores, one of them 64 bit Power.

 

[PC-Engine]

Yes small enough to pack more than 1 cell into a 65nm BE which most people have predicted/expected.

 

[j^aws]

GUYS, DON'T EXPECT MORE THAN 1 PE IF THIS IS TRUE FROM THE SAME ARTICLE,

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20280

 

[London Geezer]

And let's not forget the size of the EE/GS at launch. The things were immense. So i'm sure that if Sony really wanted, they would just use ass much die space as they physically can, till they get to their target performance.

 

[one]

The Cell has some components that in the lab switch at 5.6 GHz,

Well, I missed too many things from the article when I first read it in the other thread as the article didn't sound very trustable then.