Nvidia Geforce RTX 5090 reviews

Not surprised at the reviews because since the announcement, I'd been saying that Nvidia was hiding something. The results are out and we can clearly see what they were trying to hide. One of the worst gen on gen uplifts in a long time both in absolute performance and value. The 5080 & 5070 when compared to the "super" variants of the 40 series will be way worse than this....
 
One of the worst gen on gen uplifts in a long time both in absolute performance and value.
We had the same value between 1080Ti and 2080Ti - which also used the same process.
And I'm not really seeing anything particularly bad about +30% in performance. It was the same with 10 to 20 and 20 to 30. Lovelace is the only exception from the recent times and it's clearly the result of a double process switch.
 
Ampere offered a 50% general performance improvement at the higher performing sku tiers.
Everyone should really refresh their memory.


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The 5090 runs pretty good on PCIe 2.0 :D

 
Comparing generational uplift based on marketing names is a pointless exercise either way. Gotta normalize on price or something material.
 
Neither are highest performing SKUs.


Yep so less than 50 and less than "more than 50" as well.
+45% isn't much different to +35%.
3090 also had +25% higher MSRP than 2080Ti.
So these are very much comparable launches.
I said "higher performing skus". ~57% compared to the ~15% the 5080 is likely to offer. The 3080 also outpaced the previous gen flagship in every performance scenario for 60% of the price.

45% is 50% larger than the 30% Blackwell offers. And to reiterate, Ampere scaled even higher than these percentages in the full RT workloads. The launches aren't very comparable.
 
I said "higher performing skus".
Which are 1080, 1080Ti, 2080Ti, 3090, 3090Ti, 4090, 5090. No 2080s or 3080s there.

45% is 50% larger than the 30% Blackwell offers.
That depends on how you calculate Blackwell's gains.
TPU shows +35% for example while some others show +20%.
I tend to think that anything less than 30 is likely heavily CPU limited so looking at that isn't relevant.

And to reiterate, Ampere scaled even higher than these percentages in the full RT workloads.
Not really. There was like 2% difference on Ampere between non-RT and RT scaling.
 
Yes, but (c)

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I think that the idea to make a 2 slot SKU for FE was a proper one though. It's better to have the option than not to have it and those who want something cooler/quieter can opt for an AIB model.
 
We had the same value between 1080Ti and 2080Ti - which also used the same process.
And I'm not really seeing anything particularly bad about +30% in performance. It was the same with 10 to 20 and 20 to 30. Lovelace is the only exception from the recent times and it's clearly the result of a double process switch.
The difference is the 2000 series introduced a new workload.... RT. Some claim it's revolutionary, others aren't so hot and bothered by it but when you compare the RT performance between the 1080ti and 2080ti, there's a noticeable improvement. 5090 does not introduce any new workloads of note. I mean some could reference neural rendering but by the time it's relevant, we'll be on the 7000 or 8000 series. It's a horrible gen on gen increase for sure that it shouldn't even qualify as a new generation. Also blasting 575W of power is completely ridiculous and to make matters worse, they're hiding the GPU hotspot as Nvidia claims it's no longer relevant.... That is if you believe De8auer..

All in all, a very poor showing for Nvidia. However, I expected it and in fact, I expect it to get worse as time progresses. If you're a long time Nvidia employee that was granted RSU's that have already vested, your motivation for work must be below 0..... If you had 100K in RSU's prior to 2019, you're a millionaire now... Lots of people will take the money and run... I mean, even Jensen is selling aggressively.
 
However, I expected it and in fact, I expect it to get worse as time progresses. If you're a long time Nvidia employee that was granted RSU's that have already vested, your motivation for work must be below 0..... If you had 100K in RSU's prior to 2019, you're a millionaire now... Lots of people will take the money and run... I mean, even Jensen is selling aggressively.

This is probably the funniest take I’ve seen. The 5090 is disappointing because Nvidia employees are rich and lazy. 😅
 
I find it funny that people were saying NVIDIA were not innovating enough "because no fast raster" yet when NVIDIA introduced new things like G-Sync, DLSS or raytracing it's "useless because no one will use them" or "these are something trivial, anyone can do that" or "fake frames!" Even now with 5090, with the new transformer DLSS models and neural textures. I guess it's best to just have super fast 2D sprite engines just like the old NES days, that'd be the most innovative thing ever!
 
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