nvidia "D8E" High End solution, what can we expect in 2008?

[Unknown Soldier]

Just for interest sake, this is what we looking at right?

D9E-GX2 (aka D9E-40) is 9800GX2.
D9E-GTX (aka D9E-20) is 9800GTX
D9M-GTS (aka D9M-xx) is 9800GTS
D9P-GT (aka D9P) is 9600GT

US

 

[Vincent]

Vr-zone is relaying something which, honestly, i find hard to believe (but not "impossible"):

9800 GTX spec's (not the known 9800 GX2):

- "G100" core
- 55nm
- 1800 M transistors (!)
- 512bit bus (!)
- 1GB of 2.0 GHz -effective- memory (still GDDR3)
- 384 unified scalar processors shock
- DX10.1
- 650MHz core, 2000MHz shader core

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=222565

Wrong, because I believe that Nvidia and ATI will rule out dual-chip solution since 2008 towad the future.

 

[ninelven]

Where does it mention dual chips?

 

[INKster]

Yeah, i'd like to know that too...

 

[LordEC911]

Well, the 8800 GTS 512 does hold up very well against a 8800 Ultra, despite having little more than 60% of its bandwidth...
Even where it doesn't is more likely due to the extra 256MB in the Ultra than the lack of bandwidth per se.

I assumed that it is the mixture of the lack of bandwidth and ROPs...

 

[CJ]

Just for interest sake, this is what we looking at right?

D9E-GX2 (aka D9E-40) is 9800GX2.
D9E-GTX (aka D9E-20) is 9800GTX
D9M-GTS (aka D9M-xx) is 9800GTS
D9P-GT (aka D9P) is 9600GT

US

It's more something like this:

D9E-40 - 9800GX2 (dual chip)
D9E-20 - 9800GTX (faster G92)
D9P-40 - 9800GT (slower G92)
D9P-20/10 - 9600GT (G94)
D9M-?? - 9400 (G96)

 

[Twinkie]

Next gen nvidia product is called GT200?

According to fudzilla its going to be launched around 2H 08, with over a billion transistors.

 

[Ailuros]

Next gen nvidia product is called GT200?

According to fudzilla its going to be launched around 2H 08, with over a billion transistors.

It was about time he abandonded the past "G100" bullshit, which I still wonder where he got that one from heh.

 

[vertex_shader]

Fruitzilla

9800 GX2 to cost most than Ultra

We've heard that Geforce 9800 GX2 dual G92 dual chip sandwich design will end up as expensive as 8800 Ultra if not even more.

The price is not final but this looks like an expensive piece of marchitecture. You are talking about two 8800GTS boards glued together, powered with an expensive cooler and of course Nvidia wants to get some profits out of it.

You should be looking at $600 but probably even more for such a card as when we do the math it ends up it will likely be $700+ product in retail but this depends on the territory.

 

[Corwin_B]

Fruitzilla

Not saying Fuad is right or wrong here (a broken clock gives the right time twice a day, after all), but does he has any kind of sources for this, or is it just "educated" guesswork ?

 

[Unknown Soldier]

It's more something like this:

D9E-40 - 9800GX2 (dual chip)
D9E-20 - 9800GTX (faster G92)
D9P-40 - 9800GT (slower G92)
D9P-20/10 - 9600GT (G94)
D9M-?? - 9400 (G96)

Thx CJ

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[Kowan]

Fruitzilla

Not sure why anyone would pay that much for two declocked GTS 512s...

 

[Domell]

It's more something like this:

D9E-40 - 9800GX2 (dual chip)
D9E-20 - 9800GTX (faster G92)
D9P-40 - 9800GT (slower G92)
D9P-20/10 - 9600GT (G94)
D9M-?? - 9400 (G96)

"Faster G92".. I wonder what does it mean. The fastest G92 is GF8800GTS at the moment so GF9800GTX (G92) should be even faster than it.

I believe GF9800GT will be faster than GF8800GTS 512 too.

 

[CJ]

"Faster G92".. I wonder what does it mean. The fastest G92 is GF8800GTS at the moment so GF9800GTX (G92) should be even faster than it.

I believe GF9800GT will be faster than GF8800GTS 512 too.

Currently the G92 is clocked quite conservatively. There is much more headroom as you can tell by looking at all the OC/XXX versions. So yes, you might wanna add quite a bit more Mhz to the 9800GTX when comparing it to the 8800GTS512.

At least that's what I'm hearing at the moment.

 

[Kowan]

Be interesting to see how the "new" GTX handles high res/AA.

 

[mczak]

Currently the G92 is clocked quite conservatively. There is much more headroom as you can tell by looking at all the OC/XXX versions. So yes, you might wanna add quite a bit more Mhz to the 9800GTX when comparing it to the 8800GTS512.

Contrary to what some here believe, 8800GT and especially GTS already look very bandwidth limited to me (ok I admit it could be ROP limited instead, I've not yet seen conclusive benchmarks which only increase/decrease ram clocks), so just increasing core/shader clocks imho will hardly do anything for performance. And memory clock can't really be increased a lot further (might be possible to do 1.1Ghz with gddr3 but that's about it), so it seems difficult to make a really higher performing part than a 8800GTS (well except for that ~10% the memory can be clocked higher). Unless the chip supports gddr4...

 

[Ailuros]

Unless the chip supports gddr4...

Question would be why they wouldn't opt for GDDR4 if they truly need it?

 

[Kowan]

I'd think they'd have to go GDDR4 to distant the GTX from the GTS G92.
If it's another 256bit bus, it will run out of steam once high res/high level AA is added...

 

[INKster]

Can anyone be even more cryptic than this ?

 

[Kowan]

I for one hope something more than a g92 refresh of the old king of the hill is very near...