Last gen is fading. Nintendo had better release a next gen system, fast!
Last gen is fading. Nintendo had better release a next gen system, fast!
If you add up Wii and Wii U, that still beats 360. And then Nintendo gets the 3DS and DS sales to double that. Can't say they've got much to complain about at the moment, if you ask me.
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I see what you did there.
USA only or worldwide. I think everyone agrees the PS3 sold more than the Xbox in 2012 worldwide.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ps3-overtakes-xbox-360-in-worldwide-shipments-report-6402214
Is this a first for a "normal" Nintendo console (ie not Virtual Boy)? Nintendo claimed launch records for both Nintendo 64 and Gamecube, and we all know how supply limited Wii was.
It did barely better in five weeks combined in december than launch week. The weekly averages just went down week after week.
Ebay was very accurate metric showing demand plummeted. Some people claimed this wasnt accurate to analyze sales because nintendo had shipped so much. This would have been true if sales numbers showed that Wii U sold closer to 1M
There is no way Wii U stays above 100k this month with no momentum
Ebay was very accurate metric showing demand plummeted. Some people claimed this wasnt accurate to analyze sales because nintendo had shipped so much. This would have been true if sales numbers showed that Wii U sold closer to 1M
There is no way Wii U stays above 100k this month with no momentum
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The fact that the WiiU isn't running up against strained supply makes it a flop on the reason that all the old hardware is convincingly outselling it. That almost never happens on successful launches. Is the iphone 4 outselling the iphone 5, etc? It's fun watching everyone's breakdown of the semantics though. IGN had a sorry, pathetic little piece - Internet logic is always fun to watch.
RancidLunchmeat
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And then there's this...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-11/nintendo-gains-as-new-wii-u-sales-beat-predecessor.html
Which is obviously from a financial prospective, but pretty interesting that people are buying Nintendo stock (funny, I always thought they were privately held) on the good news from December's NPD.
The reason? The WiiU has generated more revenue over the same time period than the Wii!
Of course, the facts that the WiiU is $50-$100 more expensive than the Wii and the Wii was supply constrained, doesn't seem to dampen the investors hopes.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-11/nintendo-gains-as-new-wii-u-sales-beat-predecessor.html
Which is obviously from a financial prospective, but pretty interesting that people are buying Nintendo stock (funny, I always thought they were privately held) on the good news from December's NPD.
The reason? The WiiU has generated more revenue over the same time period than the Wii!
Of course, the facts that the WiiU is $50-$100 more expensive than the Wii and the Wii was supply constrained, doesn't seem to dampen the investors hopes.
djskribbles
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It's not their greatest year in the US, but they're doing fine WW. I doubt this worries them too much into rushing out the PS4.
Bagel seed
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Lol no that is not the reason why the stock is going up. Japanese stocks are seeing a bit of a rebound because the yen is weakening from stimulus and well, the fact that it was super super high. Time for a breather. It was just NTDOY's turn to bounce from the nosediving.
Are we reading the same numbers??
If you added up PS2 and PS3 sales in late 2006 and 2007 it probably looked good for Sony too. Of course everyone knew those PS2 sales wouldn't last forever (and that they'd come at lower and lower price points)
Of course DS won't last either, but 3DS is doing quite well. Surprisingly so. I wonder if that's a bigger contributor to Nintendo's stock performance?
Well it wouldn't if that $50-100 is profit!
Ehm ... Oops! Mixed up portable and console :shameface:
RancidLunchmeat
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LOL! That's true, Shifty. But if it was profit, they would have said so. They are selling a more expensive console at a higher cost.
Wanna bet that the Wii, while generating less total revenue, was more profitable?
Inuhanyou
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Microsoft seems to have US on lock. All it needs to do is transfer that ecosystem of customers over to the nextbox this year and they should be set. And they can do that as long as they don't do a launch PS3 level of fuck up.
I find that hard to see. The true battle for 720 will be if Microsoft can pick up some of EU
I find that hard to see. The true battle for 720 will be if Microsoft can pick up some of EU
RancidLunchmeat
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I agree completely. I'd be interested in seeing some EU numbers if anybody has them from an accurate source. As it is, it seems like the only firm numbers we get is from NPD and then the quarterly financial statements which just lump everything together.
Oh, and if anybody can answer.. Where is the Land Down Under in terms of markets? I'd be interested in that information as well. JPN, I pretty much don't care about, they've made their statement and they're becoming less relevant as each year goes by in terms of a console market.
NZ - ps3 > 360 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wii (I believe up until last year the 360 was leading the ps3)
OZ - wii > ps3 > 360
3DS april->september 2012 shipment sales (the most recent data)
Japan 2.09 million
NA 1.39 million
Other 1.58 million
yes thats right to nintendo Japan is the most important market!
Last generation (the DS) Japan was about half either NA or others, its not that the japanese have suddenly become rich and buying more (in fact theyre buying less, its just the dropoff is way less pronounced than elsewhere)
OZ - wii > ps3 > 360
Actually theyve become more relavant in real terms, the USA & UK (& I guess most western countries) have had massive dropoffs in console revenue ~30% a year for the last couple of years. PPl have blamed this on a couple of things finicial crisis (which apparently wasnt happening in 2008-09), download etc. OK sure these have all played a part, but you know whats played the largest part in the downturn? the rise of the tablet/smartphone this is impacted console sales esp in the west, for some reason the japanese are not so caught up in this like we are.
3DS april->september 2012 shipment sales (the most recent data)
Japan 2.09 million
NA 1.39 million
Other 1.58 million
yes thats right to nintendo Japan is the most important market!
Last generation (the DS) Japan was about half either NA or others, its not that the japanese have suddenly become rich and buying more (in fact theyre buying less, its just the dropoff is way less pronounced than elsewhere)
I'd argue handhelds is different from consoles. Japan seems to be the lone place immune to smartphones replacing handhelds, yet consoles seem to be slowly dying there being replaced by those very handhelds.
While PS2 did 20m in Japan, Wii has done 12m+ (and then died totally) and PS3 ~9m (fairly paltry), and thats it.
