Nintendo unveiling next-gen console at E3 2005

http://www.gamespot.com/all/news/news_6089148.html

Nintendo unveiling next-gen console at E3 2005


Japanese game giant refutes reports the GameCube's successor is on hold.

TOKYO--Nintendo announced today it will be releasing its next-generation
console as originally planned, contradicting yesterday's Nihon Keizai
Shimbun article which said Nintendo is postponing plans to release a
next-generation console. A report in the Mainichi Daily also revealed that
Nintendo will be unveiling its next-generation console at the E3 next year
in 2005.




According to Bloomberg Japan, Reuters, and various other publications,
Nintendo's public relations chief Yasuhiro Minagawa said that Nintendo is
still planning to release a next-generation console to succeed the GameCube
in the same period as its competitors.

Referring to the recent Report by the Nihon Keizai Shimbun that Nintendo
will be postponing the release of a next generation console, Minagawa
commented that "It was supposed to mean that Sony and Microsoft are expected
to release their next generation consoles from 2005 to 2006, and we also
won't be releasing one until that period." This echoed a statement given to
GameSpot yesterday by Nintendo of America's director of corporate
communications Beth Llewellyn, who said that the Nikkei's report was
erroneous and based on "a lot of speculation."

Bloomberg Japan reports that Nintendo saw its late start in the current
console wars as one of the reasons to why GameCube sales fell behind the
PlayStation 2's. In order to compete out of the gate with the next Xbox and
the PlayStation 3, Nintendo says it is already developing a next-generation
graphics processor together with NEC and ATI Technology. ATI Technology is
Nintendo's current manufacturer of graphic chips for the GameCube console,
which utilizes a DRAM process technology by NEC. Nintendo is developing its
next-generation console's CPU in conjunction with IBM, who is also helping
develop the next Xbox CPU and the Cell processor that will be used in the
PS3.

Nintendo also confirmed that new peripherals for the GameCube console will
be released in 2005, but that will not affect the next-generation console's
release. While no details on the devices have been revealed, Nintendo says
the peripherals will expand the capabilities of the GameCube and it will
release new games that will take advantage of them.


also here:
http://cube.ign.com/articles/491/491248p1.html

and here:
http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1076440437
 
Ah, at last some confimation of further involvement from NEC. ^_^ (Not unexpected, but hey.)

Not much to go on, but at least hopefully this will quelch all the misinterpretations. It would be nice for them to have been more vocal and definitive months back, though. I guess the GPU will be suitably different between N5 and Xbox2, but what might the CPU look like? Probably get more similarities that way. ^_^
 
showing the nextgen console THIS year would be too early and pretty much signal the decline of Gamecube.

Nintendo64 launch in 1996 - Nintendo announced Dolphin at E3 1999, about three years after the Japanese N64 launch, but Dolphin/Gamecube was not really revealed until August of 2000. about 4 years after N64 came out.

Gamecube is not 3 years old, and still wouldn't be by E3 2004.

by E3 2005, it would be the time to start at least a partial unveiling of the next system, assuming its not coming out until 2006.
 
there is no shame for nintendo if they release /or anounce with a shorter product cycle. Remember the price of the cube was cheaper than either the xbox or the ps2 at launch and so it doesn't have to have the same amount of life .
 
jvd said:
there is no shame for nintendo if they release /or anounce with a shorter product cycle. Remember the price of the cube was cheaper than either the xbox or the ps2 at launch and so it doesn't have to have the same amount of life .

It boggles the mind :oops:

What kind of logic is that? What does price have to do with console longevity? Because they'll attain a price down limit faster than the others that are higher priced? :rolleyes:


p.s. stick to tech threads
 
Simple . The cube will hae about the same life spand as the box and is the cheaper of the two. when something is cheaper many know when buying that its shelf life is reduced.


No one goes out to buy a 100$ computer and expect it to last as long as a 1000$ pc .
 
JVD, the market doesn't work like that, and more specifically console buyers don't expect somehting to be replaced by a newer product just because it's cheap.

GC is selling for 99 bucks, but that doesn't mean people only expect it to be current for another year and a half.
 
Qroach said:
JVD, the market doesn't work like that, and more specifically console buyers don't expect somehting to be replaced by a newer product just because it's cheap.

GC is selling for 99 bucks, but that doesn't mean people only expect it to be current for another year and a half.

The market it does work like that . Yes people do expect it to only be current for another year and a half .

Unless they haven't been watching nintendo consoles lately .

The consoles have a fixed life span . THe company that releases it dictates that schedual .

Nintendo dictates the schedual of the gamecube. People who buy a gamecube right now for a 100$ do not expect to get new games for it 5 years from now .

They know they are buying it late in thier life. They remember the adds for it being 200 , 150 , 150 with free game . They know its been around .

Why would they expect anything else . At any time a product can become unsupported with new content . That goes for any video game systems .

If sony felt they needed to release a ps3 tommorow then they can and thats the way it works. Thos who bought the system at 300$ had a much longer life from it than those who bought it for 180 and that is expected when you buy a product at a cheaper price point
 
I never got that impression at all. It has the cheapest price of the lot because it seeks a strategy to capitalize on underselling the competition. As for its lifespan- well, I would say it is intended to last however long its competitors last in this generation. Now if GC was a relic of the previous generation and was selling at firesale prices, then yes, that would suggest that whoever buys it, does so with the knowledge that it, and games for it, won't be around for too much longer.
 
randycat99 said:
I never got that impression at all. It has the cheapest price of the lot because it seeks a strategy to capitalize on underselling the competition. As for its lifespan- well, I would say it is intended to last however long its competitors last in this generation. Now if GC was a relic of the previous generation and was selling at firesale prices, then yes, that would suggest that whoever buys it, does so with the knowledge that it, and games for it, won't be around for too much longer.

Why . If nintendo wants to move to a 4 year gen then why wouldn't u see that as another strategy ?

Why wouldn't it work for a new console every 4 years . Who picked the current time frame that is being discussed in this thread .
 
It might well be, but lower price is hardly suggestive or conclusive that that must be their intent. It's just cheaper than the competition, but for all intents and purposes, it was meant to live out the span of however long the current generation lasts.
 
Why wouldn't it work for a new console every 4 years . Who picked the current time frame that is being discussed in this thread.

Yes, anything could work. Though I don't agree with your price and lifespan of the product analysis. But for Nintendo 4 years cycle isn't too bad. I mean their hand held, is like GBA, GBA SP, Nintendo DS, GBA2, these products probably going to be out in a span of like 5 years.

If they can juggle the same with consoles, it'll be mind boggling :)
 
I'm not suprised, and you aren't but none of us are the typical game buyers out there. We're a small fraction of the population that keeps current on game oriented news. All I can say is that parents that don't keep current on the gaming news certainly wouldn't have any idea if it's lifespan was coming to a close unless someone told them.


Btw, JVD 99 bucks is not the firesale price where people expect something to be replaced. That may be the price they want it to sell for as we've all heard that 99 doallars is the sweet spot for console price points.


After all, nintendo keeps sending out completly mixed signals on what it wants to do in the future. Months back they said the GC was gonna last until 2007, then a few days ago they said they wanted to extend the life of the product with peripherals, now they say the new console will be shown at E3 2005.
 
When Sega put all resources on Saturn (i.e. giving up MegaDrive, 32X and MegaCD), they left the 16-bit market all to Nintendo, which made loads of money on SNES that year.

I think that if Nintendo continues to make great (but MORE) software, and if they keep their price at $99 - $50 something, they can make a big profit on software sales in 2004-2005-2006 or even 2007/2008. Microsoft and Sony will focus almost every resource on their Xbox 2 and PlayStation 3 launches. So Nintendo COULD have a similar situation. :)
 
Well I doubt that will happen again. Sony's name is arguably larger then sega at that time and it command far more customers to be interested in thier new platforms. Also, this is a three horse race and not two like previously.
 
After all, nintendo keeps sending out completly mixed signals on what it wants to do in the future. Months back they said the GC was gonna last until 2007, then a few days ago they said they wanted to extend the life of the product with peripherals, now they say the new console will be shown at E3 2005.

I don't think those are mixed signals really. Certainly those three things aren't actually contradictory to each other.

I think what JVD is saying has some truth to it. In that the majority of people out their will realise that they only have a couple of years of support if they buy a GC now. They'll all have seen the $199 ads when it was released in 2001 so they know this product isn't new. I mean its been halved in price and so it makes sense to then presume that its lifespan is already at least half gone. In other words I agree that if you buy a console full price you expect to get a longer lifespan from that then from a console that is now half price. But that's also just the same for XBox and PS2.

I don't really agree that because GC started cheaper that means its lifespan should be shorter then the other systems. Again their is some truth their since starting lower means less price drops are possible before hitting 'end of the line' prices. Also the fact that your paying less, in most markets, usually lends itself to "ok this may not last as long as the more expensive version, but its cheaper". But in general I don't think GC was released with a lower price then XBox and PS2 because it was planned to bow out early this gen.
 
Isn't MS going to "show" X-Box 2 at this years E3? Nintendo might release some new (probably vague) information too, just to get people interested.
 
nobie said:
Isn't MS going to "show" X-Box 2 at this years E3? Nintendo might release some new (probably vague) information too, just to get people interested.

YAY, can't wait for the next 2 years of pre-rendered-emulated-realistically-possible-on-new-consoles "demos" from MS, Sony and even Nintendo... :|
 
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