Next Gen Outcome Unpredictable?
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Deepak said:ChryZ said:
Where was the survey done? Europe? So more people know about Kraft than Mcdonald?? That is shocking! Where is Microsoft?
Seeing how General Electric and General Motors are in the Top 10, i'm pretty sure it's the USA.
Kinda weird seeing P&G over companies like Microsoft and Pepsi, though...
cthellis42 said:
Agreed. Microsoft better have more than just Xbox Live Arcade and VideoChat in Japan, because they won't last any longer there. In fact, I'm not sure even Halo 2 can help. They need Japanese-created games and more the merrier.
cthellis42 said:I'm not sure either, but I DO think they want to put their best foot forward for the global community to give Xbox 2 the biggest leg-up, and I certainly don't think they'll have it in Japan. (Not to mention the US gamers may sour and hold it against them, as we LIKE having one platform that starts here first!
I think you're over estimating the significance of putting their "best foot forward for the global community" with regards to Xbox. Xbox has success here in the US and to a certain degree in Europe too. The US could wait a little longer for the sequel just because it has done so well here. Especially if the next console is not backward compatible. They could piss off a lot of Xbox fans if it comes early and doesn't support backward compatibility. Though I do agree it depends a lot on what kind of Xbox line-up they will have in late 2005 too.
IMHO, they could release in Japan earlier without backward compatibility and be OK. They're not buying much Xbox games anyway. Also, if the backward compatibility is not ready for a late 2005 launch in any territory(since it should just be software emulation), then they could release later in the US when it is ready. I also could see them releasing in Japan without a hard drive too, but include one for the US launch 6-12 months later.
BTW, it's never really bothered many US gamers that Sony released first in Japan. So I don't see much importance in Microsoft having to release in the US first. Yes, US gamers might want their US console first, but if they're buying so many current Xbox consoles and games, then I'm sure they won't mind to wait a little longer. Especially if that means they could get both backward compatibility and a hard drive. Wouldn't you? I know I would.
Tommy McClain
Qroach said:hey hey, wasn't I the only one that thought MS would launch in japan first?
Well it took me awhile, but I'm starting to agree. With all latest things happening or not happening with Xbox in Japan, I'm starting to think it's becoming more and more possible.Tommy McClain
If backward-compatability timings were the real issue (that they DO want for US/Europe and that they NEED the extra time for it) then I can see advantages of launching in that order, but we're not seeing the other part of that equation--that they have serious support from Japanese developers for Japanese regional games to support a 2005 launch. (And if it were, say, Apple doing this that would be one thing, but Microsoft is never really able to keep any big plans supah-secret. And the wheels for such a maneuver would already have to be well in motion.) Without the games, there's no point in launching the hardware, and WITH the games...? At that point it hardly matters where and when they launch, they just NEED the proper games for the Asian markets.
They've always been, however, leaning on their PC strengths and on American and European developers, and trying to promote the Xbox as the platform for them, so what would such a maneuver be saying? Would they be grateful for extended development time and not being as pressured to move up a generation over Xbox 1 titles? (Would that pressure even change? ) Would there be backwards-compatibility coming; would there be other further console redesigns to take advantage of? Would they ponder where Microsoft's priorities lay, or expect shifting support for that generation? Would they look at their respective performance in Japan and base their expectations around those figures?
One thing I feel confident about, though, is that the avid Xbox fans--those who only own an Xbox, only really play Xbox games--would be pissed. They like feeling as if they're the primary market--not having to wait, not getting "hand-me-down" games--and expect that of a US company. (Since they always get it the other way from the competition.) Six months is also a long period for them to champ at the bit, especially if they see that the Xbox may not have cost, technical, or IQ superiority anymore--and see those other consoles coming down the pipe quickly--and may want other things to "feel superior" about. Plenty of feelings to be soured in that time.
Just don't see it. I think they'd be more apt to wait six months--make sure the hardware is in the exact shape they want it--make SURE the Asian market HAS the games it needs for a good impression, and go then.
MS is playing the riskier game of "look what WE can do this gen! Don't mind the shortened cycle, don't look at our performance last generation, don't look at those other consoles coming... Xbox 2 is what it is!" which is why I'm saying they need to make the best initial impression. Launching in Japan may show they're going to be more dedicated and put more effort to the Asian markets next generation, but it could well come off as a half-baked launch to the rest of the world.
And the wheels for such a maneuver would already have to be well in motion.) Without the games, there's no point in launching the hardware, and WITH the games...? At that point it hardly matters where and when they launch, they just NEED the proper games for the Asian markets.They've always been, however, leaning on their PC strengths and on American and European developers, and trying to promote the Xbox as the platform for them, so what would such a maneuver be saying? Would they be grateful for extended development time and not being as pressured to move up a generation over Xbox 1 titles? (Would that pressure even change?
) Would there be backwards-compatibility coming; would there be other further console redesigns to take advantage of? Would they ponder where Microsoft's priorities lay, or expect shifting support for that generation? Would they look at their respective performance in Japan and base their expectations around those figures?One thing I feel confident about, though, is that the avid Xbox fans--those who only own an Xbox, only really play Xbox games--would be pissed. They like feeling as if they're the primary market--not having to wait, not getting "hand-me-down" games--and expect that of a US company. (Since they always get it the other way from the competition.) Six months is also a long period for them to champ at the bit, especially if they see that the Xbox may not have cost, technical, or IQ superiority anymore--and see those other consoles coming down the pipe quickly--and may want other things to "feel superior" about.
Plenty of feelings to be soured in that time.Just don't see it. I think they'd be more apt to wait six months--make sure the hardware is in the exact shape they want it--make SURE the Asian market HAS the games it needs for a good impression, and go then.
MS is playing the riskier game of "look what WE can do this gen! Don't mind the shortened cycle, don't look at our performance last generation, don't look at those other consoles coming... Xbox 2 is what it is!" which is why I'm saying they need to make the best initial impression. Launching in Japan may show they're going to be more dedicated and put more effort to the Asian markets next generation, but it could well come off as a half-baked launch to the rest of the world.
Ridiculous!!! You people are carzy
Launching first in Japan would be a disaster...
They will launch first in USA, where they are stronger, so they can look as good as possible - and that is crucial!
Sony owns the Japonese market, they are japonese, and they have an international reputation, exactly what the japs want.
You people don't know the japonese way of thinking and way of life, it's alien to you.
Xbox will have another hard time in Japan., and I don't even see what ace in the sleeve Microsoft has planed.
Launching first in Japan would be a disaster...
They will launch first in USA, where they are stronger, so they can look as good as possible - and that is crucial!
Sony owns the Japonese market, they are japonese, and they have an international reputation, exactly what the japs want.
You people don't know the japonese way of thinking and way of life, it's alien to you.
Xbox will have another hard time in Japan., and I don't even see what ace in the sleeve Microsoft has planed.
For reference, termikk, that's already been brought forth, and is actually being debated in a less frentic manner.
Also: japanese
Also also: please refrain from using the slang japs--it never really comes off in a positive manner. (And heck, you'd already used "japanese" in every other instance, so it gets attention drawn to it.)
Also: japanese
Also also: please refrain from using the slang japs--it never really comes off in a positive manner. (And heck, you'd already used "japanese" in every other instance, so it gets attention drawn to it.)
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