New Steam survey results (started April 5th)

The Baron said:
Xenus said:
Why they are really cheap. I've seen DVD burners for 20 USD.
Cause no publisher will ship anything, except collector's editions, on DVD in the US.

Yup, I still don't have a DVD burner or drive. Never really had the need to.
 
Mordenkainen said:
What was surprising to me (in a fashion) was the very high percentage of DVD drives in that survey. Over here in Europe they're quite common but from various discussions on this topic and some publisher/developer's comments I was always given the impression that in the US DVD-drives were a small minority.

For along time people would opt for the cd burner over the dvd burner , but thats been over for 3 years and hte dvd drives will continue to grow since u can get a 16x burner for 70$ dual layer 2.4 write
 
The parts I find interesting:
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S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR	           2,204	0.28 %
Intel(R) 82915G Express Chipset Family	2,146	     0.28 %
Intel 810	                                       2,060	0.27 %

There are 6,000+ people with videocards that bought a $50 game when they could have bought a bottom-end DX7.0+ videocard with HW support instead to replace their awful integrated video.
 
Sharkfood said:
The parts I find interesting:
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S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR	           2,204	0.28 %
Intel(R) 82915G Express Chipset Family	2,146	     0.28 %
Intel 810	                                       2,060	0.27 %

There are 6,000+ people with videocards that bought a $50 game when they could have bought a bottom-end DX7.0+ videocard with HW support instead to replace their awful integrated video.

Even a Radeon 9550 is only $100 at Best Buy, and it's decently fast for a bargain card(I have one at work).

Of course, alot of the motherboards that have those chips don't have an AGP slot...I suppose Dell saves $0.50 by not soldering an AGP connector onto the PCB(the boards usually have the AGP slot there, just no connector soldered in). One of these days I'm going to try to take one of those boards and solder in one from a dead motherboard and see if it will work.
 
Not every piece of hardware listed there is being used on Half-Life2.
This is a Steam survey and includes all steam useres who participated. A huge ammount of which will only be running Counterstrike or Half-Life1, and neither of these require renderers of any significant power.
 
Fodder said:
Despite the NV3x quagmire, the 5200 makes quite a decent budget DX8 part, without the driver issues that have plagued the 8500-9200.
And what driver plague would that be?
Got mine in january and had very few driver issues between then and when I got my 6600GT for xmas.
Besides the Q3A "bug" ?
The bugs I had, were the game racer stopped working with a set, www.racer.nl , and richards burns rally flashing textures, which was more signicant imo, since it's a commerial game, and racer is not.
Granted I bought mine a few months after launch, I didn't have millions of bugs, just two, although they were show stoppers.
I also digged how it cost 220 with tax, and I was able to to flash it from oem 230mhz, to retail 275mhz, and take it a little over 300 mhz.
Used to have fun "playing" 3dmark2002 with it.
And it would appear with the GF6 series, nvidia have taken the crown back in terms cards in pcs, although that really isn't signicant since most people don't read reviews.
Atleast this time they brought the performance to go with the loud marketing though.
 
Xmas said:
There's something I don't understand about the memory results. The first line, ">=24 Mb to <32 Mb", suggests that it's always "up to, but not including". However, the last line says "Above 2.0 Gb". So where does the transition occur? I certainly don't believe there's only a single person with 2 GiB of RAM.
No one able to solve this riddle? ;)
 
Alstrong said:
Xmas said:
No one able to solve this riddle? ;)

24*1024KB
Huh?

I wanted to know whether those categories, like "128 Mb to 256 Mb", stand for the former or the latter. Or more precise, does it mean >=128 to <256, or >128 to <=256? The first line seems to indicate the former (">=24 Mb to &lt32 Mb"), the last line seems to indicate the opposite ("Above 2.0 Gb"). So which is it?
 
This makes the most sense to me. I think they were just extremely lazy. Extremely.

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>=24 Mb to <32 Mb 4 0.00 % 
>=32 Mb to <64 Mb 318 0.04 % 
>=64 Mb to <96 Mb 199 0.02 % 
>=96 Mb to <128 Mb 6,577 0.78 %  
>=128 Mb to <256 Mb 101,682 12.02 %  
>=256 Mb to <512 Mb 384,724 45.46 %  
>=512 Mb to <1 Gb 324,069 38.30 %  
>=1 Gb to   <1.5 Gb 14,239 1.68 %  
>=1.5 Gb to <2.0 Gb 14,386 1.70 %  
>= 2.0 Gb 2 0.00 %
 
Alstrong said:
This makes the most sense to me. I think they were just extremely lazy. Extremely.
I think that's most likely, too. However, I can't believe that out of almost 850k participants, there are only two with 2 GiB of memory.

IMO they should have done it the other way round. Because on some systems, for some reason, Windows tends to report one MiB of memory less than is actually installed.
Why did they use ranges at all?
 
Xmas said:
I think that's most likely, too. However, I can't believe that out of almost 850k participants, there are only two with 2 GiB of memory.

What cards have that much let alone more than 256MB? Workstation cards?



IMO they should have done it the other way round. Because on some systems, for some reason, Windows tends to report one MiB of memory less than is actually installed.
Why did they use ranges at all?

Alstrong said:
I think they were just extremely lazy. Extremely.

There are quite a few different memory sizes if you want to consider everything back to voodoo1's. :p I suppose a range of 2-16MB inclusive would be good, and then 32MB, 64MB, 128MB, 256MB+
 
radeonic2 said:
And what driver plague would that be?
We've had this exact discussion before. The transition from my 8500 to my 9600 was nothing short of remarkable, solely due to the phenomenal difference in driver quality.
 
Fodder said:
radeonic2 said:
And what driver plague would that be?
We've had this exact discussion before. The transition from my 8500 to my 9600 was nothing short of remarkable, solely due to the phenomenal difference in driver quality.
I thought you sounded familar.
It's really too bad my experience didn't match you and others in that thread, I even had a via KT133 chipset when I got it, and still no problems you guys meantioned.
 
Random thought: I wonder if some of the DVD drives Valve counted were for the astoundingly handy DaemonTools or something similar?

Both TR and TheInq have noted the new survey (and what potentially little/specialised info it yields). Interesting note, I was prompted to check it out after Steam prompted me to share my system info. Wonder if they did the same?

Going by the driver numbers I quoted in the first post, Steam has added almost 150k extra systems. Pretty fast uptake. Note that the number of Unknown + Other cards has stayed the same, at 80k. Maybe I should see how the card numbers have changed.
 
And about all the people complaining about the X800XT PE being "not available"

high end:
NVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra 4,249 0.49 %
vs
ATI Radeon X800 XT 6,898 0.79 %


very high end:
NVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra Extreme (not listed)
vs
ATI Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition 5,069 0.58 %

Old discussion, but still funny (especially if you do have an xt-pe like me...)
 
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