More bad news for PS3 launch?

[nelg]

Sony Misses Japan PS3 Shipment Target
A further 20 % reduction in Japan, from 100,000 to 80,000. Will the U.S. follow?

Also, any truth to the 380w power consumption rumor?

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Also, any truth to the 380w power consumption rumor?

I find that extraordinarily hard to believe. There's hot SLI rigs that consume less than that. Here's a table Googled of PC with different GPUs

An Athlon64 X2 4400+ processor, 2 GB of DDR-400 memory, an Asus nForce4 SLI X16 motherboard and two Western Digital Raptor 10K hard drives with nVidia GeForce 7950 GX2 1 GB consumes 288 watts at full load.

PS3 is probably about half that.

 

[Gradthrawn]

According to SCEI, it is true (if the translation is correct). However, it should be noted that what is being reported is the maximum power draw.

 

[pipo]

Who cares? It's silent!

 

[DuckThor Evil]

I find that extraordinarily hard to believe. There's hot SLI rigs that consume less than that. Here's a table Googled of PC with different GPUs

An Athlon64 X2 4400+ processor, 2 GB of DDR-400 memory, an Asus nForce4 SLI X16 motherboard and two Western Digital Raptor 10K hard drives with nVidia GeForce 7950 GX2 1 GB consumes 288 watts at full load.

PS3 is probably about half that.

Well in this picture it says 120v and 3.2A, My electric knowlegde is low, but aren't those numbers pointing out that there is a rather beefy power supply?

 

[Npl]

I read about 80W max for Cell (cant remember if that was @3.2GHz or 4.0GHz, but Im nearly sure the latter). So that leaves 300w for RSX, BluRay & IO.
There you got it, RSX = G80 ... Wait... maybe PS3 IS the G80, own PSU and such...

 

[Npl]

Well in this picture it says 120v and 3.2A, My electric knowlegde is low, but aren't those numbers pointing out that there is a rather beefy power supply?

Google up VA-rating. its definitly not the same as watts. Its been a decade since I learned this stuff and I would have serious trouble explaining it in english. PSU are a horrible complicated topic.
Besides the fact that the sticker is rather a guide what kind of fuse could reliable detect a defect before the machine could cause damage (ie start burning or such)

 

[Bobbler]

Well in this picture it says 120v and 3.2A, My electric knowlegde is low, but aren't those numbers pointing out that there is a rather beefy power supply?

Not necessarily. It seems like it's being misinterpreted...

I have a power supply sitting next to me that's rated 1.5A at 120v -- it doesn't mean it's going to suck down 180watts... not even close in typical use (or maximum). It'd be using 1/6 of that under full load for the product it's being used with. Another one that's 120v and 600mA and even says 9 watts max on it -- if we used the fun math that they did we'd find it should be around 70watts max! Also another one with 120v and .5A and it definitely shouldn't be used on a product that needs more than 5-7watts.

What gave anyone the idea that it was a good way to judge power usage (or even max power consumption) by just multiplying the 120v by the A and calling it a day?

 

[Sankari]

Before Sony confirms cutting the numbers once again, I rather take this with grain of salt. If true, the PS3 launch will be the worst in gaming history.

 

[one]

What gave anyone the idea that it was a good way to judge power usage (or even max power consumption) by just multiplying the 120v by the A and calling it a day?

If you do the same math for Xbox 360, it becomes 5-600W
http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/9141/dsc00096copy6ej.jpg

 

[DuckThor Evil]

What gave anyone the idea that it was a good way to judge power usage (or even max power consumption) by just multiplying the 120v by the A and calling it a day?

Well I didn't say that they should just be multiplied, I did however though that it could be used as a loose guideline, to figure out powerdraw, obviously I was mistaken.

 

[pipo]

Sony Misses Japan PS3 Shipment Target
A further 20 % reduction in Japan, from 100,000 to 80,000. Will the U.S. follow?

If this trend continues the 360 might actually beat the PS3 when it comes to Japanese launch figures.

 

[Tap In]

power consumption sounds high especially considering that the 360 with similar components draws about 160 watts

 

[Bobbler]

Well I didn't say that they should just be multiplied, I did however though that it could be used as a loose guideline, to figure out powerdraw, obviously I was mistaken.

I was more responding to the rumor starters (I've seen it on a couple websites now); I hope you didn't think I was trying to insult you or anything... I wouldn't know it either if I didn't have to deal with power supplies and such on occasion at work. But for a person to post something on their webpage that they expect people to take as a serious source for news, the least they can do is do a small amount of fact checking and know what they are posting is right. Such a pity.

 

[Sankari]

power consumption sounds high especially considering that the 360 with similar components draws about 160 watts

Well if you didn't notice yet, this is the MAX. Its not like PS3 will be running at these figures 100% of the time. I doubt it even runs with that power usage when playing games, perhaps when playing movies. If someone plays 4 hours a day, 365 days a year, no comment.

I don't know whats the big deal anyway, perhaps for student this would mean the end of the world tho.

I wonder how many PS3 can Sony produce in a week though? Didn't they state that they will be bringing them in weekly. I still rather wait for Sony's word before taking this story of them cutting the numbers as granted but if its true. The future of Sony Playstation looks rather dark. Perhaps Blu-ray for theyr console was too much for them to bite. Double-edged sword.

 

[Inane_Dork]

80K? That's so pathetic.

 

[Bobbler]

Well if you didn't notice yet, this is the MAX. Its not like PS3 will be running at these figures 100% of the time. I doubt it even runs with that power usage when playing games, perhaps when playing movies. If someone plays 4 hours a day, 365 days a year, no comment.

I don't know whats the big deal anyway, perhaps for student this would mean the end of the world tho.

The issue is, that isn't even the max -- and if it was, I'd say it wouldn't be okay... because they'd be likely wasting quite a bit of power that'd just be converted to heat in that case (PSU's are more efficient when used closer to their max wattage, IIRC). This is where people are misunderstanding. 3.2A x 120v != max power rating for power supply. The max will most likely be ~200 watts, regardless of what you get with the simple A x V math.

If that was the case, as 'one' pointed out, the X360 would be rated as 500+watts max... and it's not... it's ~200watts max (which it even states on the PSU).

 

[DuckThor Evil]

I was more responding to the rumor starters (I've seen it on a couple websites now); I hope you didn't think I was trying to insult you or anything... I wouldn't know it either if I didn't have to deal with power supplies and such on occasion at work. But for a person to post something on their webpage that they expect people to take as a serious source for news, the least they can do is do a small amount of fact checking and know what they are posting is right. Such a pity.

Heh I didn't get upset although I probably did deserve a small insult for posting crap

 

[Sankari]

The issue is, that isn't even the max -- and if it was, I'd say it wouldn't be okay... because they'd be likely wasting quite a bit of power that'd just be converted to heat in that case (PSU's are more efficient when used closer to their max wattage, IIRC). This is where people are misunderstanding. 3.2A x 120v != max power rating for power supply. The max will most likely be ~200 watts, regardless of what you get with the simple A x V math.

If that was the case, as 'one' pointed out, the X360 would be rated as 500+watts max... and it's not... it's ~200watts max (which it even states on the PSU).

Well thats good. I'm not one bit worried what my PS3 uses though, my PC is likely to use way more than Xbox360, PS3 and Wii together.

I am however rather worried about this report of them cutting the numbers once again. They really need to do everything they can to fix things with productions. Nintendo is probably able to get atleast 3-4 million Wii's out there by the years end. Microsoft is shipping consoles to the market steadily, but Sony is having serious issues. The productions issues for Microsoft weren't a big deal because they had no competition back then but Sony has 2 consoles to fight soon after theyr launch. If they can't get atleast 2 million consoles out by years end, Playstation is in serious problems. I'm sure Sony will bounce back later on but its not looking bright. I'll still get my PS3 no matter what the developer support for PS3 is mainly due to MGS4/FFXIII.

Why doesn't Sony make contracts with other companies to manufacture these blu diodes or whatever they are having problems with? Just do anything possible at first to get these consoles out as soon as possible and much as you can.

With all that being said however, I'm still not believing this report before Sony comes out and admits it.

 

[Tap In]

Well if you didn't notice yet, this is the MAX. Its not like PS3 will be running at these figures 100% of the time.

evidently I did not make myself clear.

I meant that the estimate sounds high.