Microsoft Xbox One X Scorpio Price Prediction and Reaction
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at worst, with no compression or anything I assume up to 4X the size of the 1080p textures. To provide an example. The high resolution texture pack for FO4 is 58 GB. For gears of war 4, the high resolution textures pushed the game into the 100+ GB range.
So in the end it 'depends'. Will be interesting to take note of come October
Some games may treat hi-res textures as DLC and may not include them on a shipped physical disc even though X1X and X1S can read a UHD BD 100GB disc.
didn't the new gears update, change the compression method which meant the install size is much lower now? Or is that after the update?
yea this is a pain for folks with bandwidth limits or lower connection rates. I think the assumption that 4K TV ownership will likely assume that users have at least enough bandwidth to support 4K streaming ~ 25Mb/s, which means if they make this assumption the hi-res textures could be DLC.
They updated how they packaged the DLC, so folks ended up having to redownload the addon content post-launch. Ultimately, it led to a smaller footprint on the HDD.
https://gearsofwar.com/en-us/forums...on/b20a04e4-ee69-4f64-8736-5121a59d7f32/posts
Interesting though is the XO & Win10 size comparison.
I'd guess that they weren't packaging the DLC optimally to reuse assets. At launch the difference seemed to be approximately 54GB vs 74GB between the two platforms IIRC, which is probably the "4k" assets for the most part.
Anyways, so it's enough for a SL BD disc (at launch even) if it comes down to offering a second disc like certain late gen 360 titles.
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Can regular BD players read UHD discs? The point of the X is that you don't create a separate physical SKU.
It's kind of interesting that a decade after the 599 debacle, 499 went over without too much notice. So, 499 at least is a viable console price point now instead of an outrage. Inflation marches on.
Reminds when Alex Rodriguez signed a landmark 10 year $242 million deal in MLB many years ago. Insane at the time, now no big deal as big contracts go.
Some say consumer electronics should always only decrease in price, but that's not strictly true. Consoles for example clearly have somewhat inelastic demand, so we have our mainstream consoles selling for 249 and 299 now instead of maybe 149 and 199 15 years ago. Also, the $99 late life console disappeared a long time ago.
Reminds when Alex Rodriguez signed a landmark 10 year $242 million deal in MLB many years ago. Insane at the time, now no big deal as big contracts go.
Some say consumer electronics should always only decrease in price, but that's not strictly true. Consoles for example clearly have somewhat inelastic demand, so we have our mainstream consoles selling for 249 and 299 now instead of maybe 149 and 199 15 years ago. Also, the $99 late life console disappeared a long time ago.
I think the main issue (for me anyway) with price is that it's not a true 'next gen' console - as such there's little reason to consider it other to boast having a console that plays the best version of all (presumed) 3rd party games. Especially when Pro will play then very nicely. No exclusives means no reason to spend such a large amount.
I think next gen will launch at $500 - or at least $450.
I think next gen will launch at $500 - or at least $450.
I agree. Of course for MS, *this* gen launched at $499, so that's not a stretch, but I also expect the PlayStation 5 to be $499. I'm all for giving them more cost headroom to make a better product.
This after predicting that the Xbox One was DOA when it launched at $499, though the PS4 launching at $399 with better specs had a lot to do with that.
It's going to be harder and harder to have explicit "gens". Rapidly diminishing returns on graphics and the fact we now have these upgrades with PS4 Pro and Xbox One X has blurred the lines even further.
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Whilst I agree to a certain extent, exclusives will be key (as in games you can only play on the newer consoles).
Even after a 7-8 years of 360 and PS3 we still had cross gen titles for about a year or so. And that gen didn't even have upgraded consoles in the mix..
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But they had exclusives that you couldn't play on the old consoles hence a reason up upgrade as well as nicer graphics