Long distance VGA cables

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I want to connect a LCD monitor to a computer using a VGA cable. however, i need a long cable because there's quite a distance between the LCD & the PC .. thats around 40m & i've been told for that distance the cable will suffer a signal loss , so my questions are :
1) Is that true ? if so what about DVI cables .. same problem ?
2) Is there any workaround (i.e. signal boosters , converters etc?) .. what do you guys suggest keeping in mind the long distance ??

NOTE: They are 4 LCD TV's to be connected to 4 PC's.
 
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1) Yup it's true. Same issue (if not worse) for DVI.
2) There are cable extenders available. I've seen them used at clinics for computers in the examination rooms. They make use of CAT5 connections to send video and also keyboard/mouse data from the network card to the booster, where you then connect the peripherals.

Some light google searching turned up this product (this one is video only, others have the mouse/keyboard functionality) http://www.kvms.com/products/F1D088.asp

I'm not sure on what are the good ones or what is a decent price though. Sorry. :(
 
1) Yup it's true. Same issue (if not worse) for DVI.
2) There are cable extenders available. I've seen them used at clinics for computers in the examination rooms. They make use of CAT5 connections to send video and also keyboard/mouse data from the network card to the booster, where you then connect the peripherals.

Some light google searching turned up this product (this one is video only, others have the mouse/keyboard functionality) http://www.kvms.com/products/F1D088.asp

I'm not sure on what are the good ones or what is a decent price though. Sorry. :(
Yep i've been told about that. problem is that we have 4 LCD's to be connected to 4xPC's .. so that means like 8 extenders ? pretty high price to pay for the job to be done :|
& yes we only need video signal & nothing else.
 
when a digital cable doesn't cut it you get signal loss versus degradation of quality with an analog cable.

now what kind of resolution and graphics performance do you need? we might imagine using an old and slow or lowest end PC with four graphics card, acting as a bunch of X11/RDP/VNC clients (or server, in the case of X.)
 
Be careful with going down the BALUN route (the product that uses Cat5 cable linked above). Not all BALUNs are created equal and I've seen quite a few different ones that were not that great for video performance at any distance.

This all depends on how much of a quality video signal you are ok with. You can certainly go 100ft or so with a high end well shielded VGA cable with minimal losses in display quality but there is much more to it than just the video cable.

The devices you are connecting to must have good quality A2D boards in them (the boards that convert your VGA signals to useable LCD/CRT signals which are usually LVDS in the case of LCD panels).

In short, every installation is a bit of trial and error unless you are intimately familiar with the displays you are using and the cables (eg: you've used them before for long runs).

There are fiber optic choices out there as well but since you mentioned price as a concern I doubt that will be a feasible route.

My suggestion is to try a run of good shielded VGA cable first. Just make sure you can return it if it doesn't work out for you.

www.l-com.com has a good selection of long VGA cables of various quality. Get the most cable you can afford to budget for as the more they cost the better they will be. You will not get good performacne from a $25.00 100ft VGA cable....

My experience in this area may not be as great as some others on these forums but I have been designing / implementing Marine LCD displays for the last 8 or so years and there are many noise issues on the large 100ft+ yachts that typically use the products I have worked on. 50-100ft video runs are pretty common on those ships.

Cables are certainly critical and I suspect that's the only thing you can work with to help avoid noise. As I mentioned before though, the A2D board and also the power supply(s) used can all contribute to noise issues as well. End users typically don't have the ability to change/modify those however.

Good luck with your project!
 
No reason to overpay for what are essentially identical cables. It's like buying the >$100 HDMI cables from best buy. They make a killing on those things and you can get identical quality for <$10.

A good quality shielded cable is not all that expensive. There are even a few reviews on the site that mention that the 50ft ~$15 cable is driving their 1080P screens just fine from their computers.
 
Thanks for the info guys.

Blazkowicz & 1BFC : for more details on the project , we are going to attach a 4x 32"LCDTV's to 4xPC's (They are equipped with a decent PSU & an 8500GT or 8600GT .. i can bring exact details if needed) . the screen resolution is 1366x768 (16:9) .. & thats what are we going to run our videos & powerpoint slides at.
the long cables are needed because while the LCDTV's will be in the showroom , the control room will be further away. it will be so much hassle to place the PC's close to the LCD's.

i'll look more into those SVGA good shielded cables & of course we are going to go for a test run on some long cables once we get the systems set up & ready.
& thanks for the DVI cables piece of info i always thought its the other way around lol :eek:
 
Update for those interested : we tried a 50m cable & it works! we only get shadow trails on the fonts but in general the videos look decent.
 
Yeah, you can bridge quite some distances with normal VGA cables. The signal loss is significant, but from a distant observer not that bad.

But 40m is quite a huge distance... wouldnt it make more sense to put a local, remotely controlled computer near the display?
 
imsabbel : check post #9
Berek-Halfhand : i was talking about 50 Meters which is around 130ft! in anyway the cable we've got is similar to the one in the link .. i think we will settle with it.
 
imsabbel : check post #9
Berek-Halfhand : i was talking about 50 Meters which is around 130ft! in anyway the cable we've got is similar to the one in the link .. i think we will settle with it.

50 meter? That could very well change things a bit :). Sorry, I didn't see the metric status.
 
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