Late, noisy, HUGE!!! - makes 17k Mark...

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It might just be me, but looking at the picture above the card appears to be covering the SECOND PCI slot as well

ARRGGG....

You are right, the GFFx covers 2 PCI-slots. This card is really huge. :oops: :oops:
 
Evildeus said:
Well i put the reference afterward. But 14500 to 17k it's 15% more on this bench it's quite a lot in fact, if it's true :)

Well there are plenty of R300 scores over 17k running overclocked GPUs. I guess the interesting question is how much headroom the NV30 has for overclocking.

Mize
 
mboeller said:
It might just be me, but looking at the picture above the card appears to be covering the SECOND PCI slot as well

ARRGGG....

You are right, the GFFx covers 2 PCI-slots. This card is really huge. :oops: :oops:

Look at the bright side: If you buy it, you can't afford a sound card anyway! ;)

I'm a bit more concerned about the heat from this card. Add heat from the chipset and a top-of-the-line warm CPU and you will have to add fans to keep things decently cool.
 
Look at the bright side: If you buy it, you can't afford a sound card anyway!

But you will need a soundcard to plug in the previously aforementioned "headphones" to drown out the noise made by the cool air induction system. :devilish:
 
Mize said:
Evildeus said:
Well i put the reference afterward. But 14500 to 17k it's 15% more on this bench it's quite a lot in fact, if it's true :)

Well there are plenty of R300 scores over 17k running overclocked GPUs. I guess the interesting question is how much headroom the NV30 has for overclocking.

Mize
On a 2400+? ;)
 
Seems to be a decent score...... however, we have no idea just what it really means. I have not seen much about 3DMark that really equates to real life gaming....unless your idea of gaming means having the highest score in 3DMark. Lets just wait till we can compare the cards in real games with everything turned on. I have a feeling that the high end GFFX is going to beat the 9700Pro by10-15% on many things with nothing turned on, and by little to none with everything enabled. Remeber, that the score here is probably a setup to show the GFFX is the best of all possible light, which no suprise & is the way it should be......
 
Sharkfood said:
The final score is an accumulation of seven (7) benchmark tests, from which three (3) of these tests are CPU bound (Game 1,2,3 low detail) and four (4) tests are GPU bound (Game 1,2,3 High Detail + Nature).

Game 1 and 3 high detail are utterly cpu limited. Low detail versions of these are fairly cpu limited. 2 is mainly vertex throughput and 4 is video memory bandwidth
 
It IS blocking two PCI slots.

Bah.

And BTW the best 3DM2k1 scores up right now are 24k-ish. I want to see an FX beat THAT before I admit it's better than a 9700 Pro :)
 
McElvis said:
It might just be me, but looking at the picture above the card appears to be covering the SECOND PCI slot as well :oops:

if it's not, then it at least looks like it could end up potentially vibrating against the underside of any card you may wish to place, and that's gonna make a ton of noise in itself
 
EvilDeus said:
Actually, this is partially incorrect.

The final score is an accumulation of seven (7) benchmark tests, from which three (3) of these tests are CPU bound (Game 1,2,3 low detail) and four (4) tests are GPU bound (Game 1,2,3 High Detail + Nature).

This is why an average delta of >1-1.5K can be achieved through simple GPU overclocking without modifying the CPU speed one bit. A simple clock bump of 15-30mhz on an R300 core verifies this trend.

Obviously, due to the the three (3) CPU bound tests, isolating a CPU increase also raises the total score as well, which is why the individual scores for the tests would be of more interest.

I disagree..all heresay for the score.
 
Nothing to disagree about. It's fact. :)

Run a series of tests while adjusting core/memory speed on any modern videocard (8500, 9700 Pro, Ti4600) and on any modern system (P4-2.0ghz+ or XP2100+). Then restabilize the GPU/Memory and do the same for bus/cpu speed. The trend is immediately measurable.
 
If you can read anything at all into this score if true - isnt it what most expected? i.e faster than a 9700Pro but not enough to warrant any 'normal' 9700Pro owners to upgrade (AA + AF peformance tba).

Obviously tech freaks, developers, bedroom programmers, 3dmark freaks, nVidiots, people who haven't upgraded from there Gf2/RadeonDDR and people with money to burn who already own a 9700Pro will buy it - these are the same people who bought a V2 SLI, Gf2Ultra, Gf3 when first available!
 
At a Q&A session at Nordic Comdex, nVidia representatives where asked the following question (among others).

[NH]: What will the approximate price of the GFFX be, and when will it arrive on the market?
[nV]: The pricetag will be around 600 Euro. As the card only targets approx. 2% of the market, the price is justified by the exclusive nature of the product. At launch it will only be available in very limited quantities, and will target the enthusiast market. The first samples should arrive at the market at the end of February.

They also state that nVidia will introduce a new product at CeBit 2003.

Entropy
 
McElvis said:
It might just be me, but looking at the picture above the card appears to be covering the SECOND PCI slot as well :oops:

That might be an issue of perspective, as BFG's specs only say one slot:

• Intel Pentium®III, AMD® Duron™ or Athon™ class processor or higher
• 128MB of RAM
• 350watt Power supply minimum
• An available 2.0 AGP slot
• Empty PCI slot adjacent to AGP slot
• Available 4-pin power connector from internal power supply
• CD-ROM Drive
• 10MB available hard disk space (50 MB for full installation)
• Windows® 95 OSR2, 98 or higher, ME, 2000, XP, NT4.0 with service pack 5 or 6, Linux OS
 
I only see one PCI slot covered and I have my glasses on...by looking at the other card shots you can see the FXcooler doesn't extend past the second backplate where the intake and exhaust is..

It's still a very large card though.
 
Tagrineth said:
It IS blocking two PCI slots.

Bah.

And BTW the best 3DM2k1 scores up right now are 24k-ish. I want to see an FX beat THAT before I admit it's better than a 9700 Pro :)

It looks to me like a card in the 2nd PCI slot will fit, but it will be a very close fit. And the FX had better beat the best 9700 Pro scores. It's got much higher fillrate, and the default benchmark in 3DMark2k1 doesn't use any FSAA or anisotropic.
 
The 2nd PCI slot should be fine..

GeForce-FX-Cooling-1.jpg
 
the first pci slot and the agp slot are shared, so they aren't counting that as a pci slot it is covering, i think they refer to the first useable pci slot that it covers, hence they can claim it just covers one pci slot

i want to see its aa and af performance badly, cause that is where it is going to count, with those features enabled

also, forgive me for getting slightly off topic it slips my mind right now, does the gffx have gamma correct aa like the r300 ?
 
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