Ken Kutaragi's keynote speech @ ISSCC 2006

[mckmas8808]

Well he's a busy guy - maybe he's not been to the cinema in a while. A long while.

Not since Toy Story 2 came out.
Ahhhh j/k guys.

 

[MrWibble]

Not since Toy Story 2 came out.
Ahhhh j/k guys.

I was thinking more along the lines of "The Last Starfighter"...

 

[overclocked]

I was thinking more along the lines of "The Last Starfighter"...

Has he said that

 

[Megadrive1988]

He said that with a straight face? Wow. I thought the Japanese cared about their honor...

he also said this (below) way back in the middle of 1998, almost a year before PS2 chipset was revealed.

http://www.eetimes.com/news/98/1017news/microsoft.html

"Graphics-chip vendors in Silicon Valley today are all doing the same thing; [they're] obsessed with the polygon race," said Ken Kutaragi, executive vice president and co-chief operating officer at Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (Tokyo), developer of the popular Playstation console. "Their R&D goals are so near-sighted that they are only paying attention to gradual changes in graphics technologies that can be developed in lockstep with the short-term PC product-development cycle."


Sony Computer Entertainment and startup VM Labs independently claim that the graphics technologies used in their next-generation videogame platforms will go far beyond the polygon-based 3-D graphics technologies pursued by the PC industry today.

Sony's Kutaragi said that a Sony Computer Entertainment engineering team based in Tokyo is working on a whole new generation of real-time image-rendering technologies, from silicon to platform algorithms to software titles, for the next Playstation. "Today's videogame computer graphics look like computer graphics," he said. "Our goal is a filmlike graphics quality that won't make viewers conscious of or annoyed [by the fact] that they are indeed looking at computer graphics."

 

[aaaaa00]

Oh Ken, you are so funny.

"Graphics-chip vendors in Silicon Valley today are all doing the same thing; [they're] obsessed with the polygon race. Their R&D goals are so near-sighted that they are only paying attention to gradual changes in graphics technologies that can be developed in lockstep with the short-term PC product-development cycle."
-- Ken Kutargi, 1998

"In the future, the experience of computer entertainment systems and broadband-ready PCs will be fused together to generate and transfer multi-streams of rich content simultaneously. In this sense, we have found the best way to integrate the state-of-the-art technologies from NVIDIA and SCEI."
-- Ken Kutargi, 2004

(I kid, I kid.)

 

[blakjedi]

Quote:
There are two elements in real-timeliness that a human being can intuitively sense. One is the continuity of motion that a human being can cognitively feel to be natural, and the other is response time between action and reaction.


Thats why 2d fighting games still play better than 3d ones.

 

[zidane1strife]

Well, just assuming a clean 'halving' from 90nm to 65nm, we'll just say it would be roughly ~110mm^2. Of course I don't think that's exactly what it will be, but it should be in that range. Which would make even the Cell on 65nm roughly 1/5 of the original EE and GS, rather than 1/6. I don't know, let's just assume he was talking about the EE+GS rather than Cell, because honestly that's what makes the most sense at this point. And to boot, that would be in line with the subject matter of his speech after all.

what about on 45nm?

 

[mckmas8808]

Honestly asking

Quote:
There are two elements in real-timeliness that a human being can intuitively sense. One is the continuity of motion that a human being can cognitively feel to be natural, and the other is response time between action and reaction.


Thats why 2d fighting games still play better than 3d ones.

What?? I don't get it. 2D fighting games do play better than 3D ones? Why do you think that?

 

[superguy]

what about on 45nm?

Only Intel currently has even a prototype on 45nm..

Sony does not seem exactly on the cutting edge of such things. I know Intel is already mass producing chips at 65nm.

 

[zidane1strife]

Only Intel currently has even a prototype on 45nm..

Sony does not seem exactly on the cutting edge of such things. I know Intel is already mass producing chips at 65nm.

sony and toshiba were working on both 65nm+45nm at the same time, toshiba got a 65nm product out last year, iirc, both going by the original schedule should've been online by now, but obviously that was not met judging by their recent new 45nm dev with nec/toshiba(toshiba was already working with nec on 45nm from nov, iirc) announcement (though I sure'd love to be surprised).

pre-post-edit:
Found the toshiba 65nm info

Notably, Toshiba is among an elite few manufacturers worldwide that are now ready to produce 65nm products in volume

product from early 2nd Half of 2k5.

http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2005_12/pr0601.htm