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Of course, Tolkien's wargs are nothing like Peter Jackson's wargs... The Hobbit was exaggerated too much IMO, in addition to drawn out too much to make a trilogy of it when the source material can't stretch properly to encompass that much movie. I felt the original Ring trilogy was a rather respectful adaptation in almost all respects, I just wish they'd respected the Hobbit's source material as much. Bah.
Maybe the old, fat Peter Jackson would have, but this new thin version must be some kind of impostor out to ruin professor Tolkien's work!
Maybe the old, fat Peter Jackson would have, but this new thin version must be some kind of impostor out to ruin professor Tolkien's work!
This is what struck me with The Hobbit (which I've seen on a PC), the entire party survives 20 or 50 meter falls and they get attacked by giant dogs all the time. Real giant dogs would have been able to chop limbs off with a single bite and otherwise make a big mess of those dwarves.
.. yea I know I'm complaining about an obvious fantasy film
Dwarves are a hearty bunch
The mountain battle had already fused off my brain at that point so those big drops were no big thing, but as a friend said "they're dwarves man !!" Now having Bilbo drop down that hole ... what kind of bone and muscle density do half-lings have ??Don't forget that a handful of dwarves successfully fight off half the Goblin kingdom and emerge completely unscathed, despite precipitous falls of hundreds of feet.
It's some years since I read it, but I certainly don't remember that happening in the book!
Jackson isn't actually too far off with the Wargs which are meant to be very big, nasty and intelligent wolves. The fact that he didn't let them look like wolves (some sort of weird hyena hybrid instead?) was bearable, I suppose. Otherwise, the portrayal of the Wargs was one of the few things Jackson managed to get right in the Middle Earth canon! Of course, he invented the whole 'Warg attack' scene in the Two Towers because, y'now, nothing much happens in the LoTR books so he needed to pad out the film with a pointless action scene...
It's some years since I read it, but I certainly don't remember that happening in the book!
Jackson isn't actually too far off with the Wargs which are meant to be very big, nasty and intelligent wolves. The fact that he didn't let them look like wolves (some sort of weird hyena hybrid instead?) was bearable, I suppose. Otherwise, the portrayal of the Wargs was one of the few things Jackson managed to get right in the Middle Earth canon! Of course, he invented the whole 'Warg attack' scene in the Two Towers because, y'now, nothing much happens in the LoTR books so he needed to pad out the film with a pointless action scene...
Ummm, no. It basically turned Tolkien's books into an action romp for 14-25yo men. The Hobbit was actually worse, but pretty much anything Jackson touches is shit. What's amusing is that Jackson tried to arrange a meeting with Chris Tolkien and was basically told to fuck off. Deservedly so.
There's more action in the movies - naturally! The books are full of lengthy monologues, poetry, verse, song and dialogue in archaic english. As an adaptation, I don't believe you could do all that much better than what Jackson accomplished. He could have skipped making Gimli into a comic relief character (laughing at the dwarf... kind of off-putting really), but most of the rest is what you get if you want to make a movie out of the books and not have it so boring and stilted that basically nobody wants to watch them.
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I have a liberal use of the term "dog", Wargs felt like they were clearly wolf inspired to me but their social nature (hanging with Orcs especially) and sentience are a bit dog inspired or that's what I want to believe, for fun.
When seeing them, I immediately thought they were very much inspired by Warcraft III Wargs. The brown shamanic/drudic Gandalf was very much Warcraft III esthetics too, or even the Elven city but maybe such depicting of Elves predated Warcraft.
I did not see the LOTR trilogy btw, same way for the book, I only read The Hobbit as a kid (I didn't finish it). I remember a lot of trekking many, some great landscapes, I must have missed whatever action there was in the end or second half.
When seeing them, I immediately thought they were very much inspired by Warcraft III Wargs. The brown shamanic/drudic Gandalf was very much Warcraft III esthetics too, or even the Elven city but maybe such depicting of Elves predated Warcraft.
I did not see the LOTR trilogy btw, same way for the book, I only read The Hobbit as a kid (I didn't finish it). I remember a lot of trekking many, some great landscapes, I must have missed whatever action there was in the end or second half.
It's rather that warcraft was inspired by art created from the works of Tolkien's stories I would think... The visual designs of the Ring movies was created by two of the foremost Tolkien illustrators, whom have bodies of work spanning literally decades.YOU DIDN'T FINISH THE HOBBIT! What a crime! It's a good book, you should go read it again. Borrow it at a library if you don't want to spend any money on something you might not like (but I see no reason why you shouldn't - like I said, it's a good book.
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