J. Allard Interview

Another interview with J. Allard. Another good read. I like the way he looks at the competition.

???It???s actually been great. Again it???s a moment of time. You???re asking me about something that we haven???t shipped, that people haven???t had the hands-on time with the final product. But people love it.???

And Allard, Xbox???s guru, says he feels good about the 360 having seen what the PS3 has to offer.

???Absolutely. Absolutely. Even more comfortable,??? Allard told Canadian reporters at E3, before taking a stab at Sony. ???I???m astounded by their lack of focus on software and services. They very very much are focused on hardware.

???And I???m fascinated honestly by all of the connection points. It take this, it takes that, it takes the other things. It???s got all these USB things, it???s got gigabit, ethernet. I just looked at it and said ???Boy. Every decision I was trying to make was make the product simpler.??? And the complexity of that product is just off the charts.

???The other thing I was trying to do was make it cheaper. And they added a lot of cost. It???s an interesting strategy, because this last generation they definitely had us both on cost and simplicity in their design.???

Despite such surprise, Allard said Sony ???did exactly what we thought they were going to do.???

???In a way I guess it???s good as a competitor, that they really haven???t paid attention to the things that we???ve done so well in. The two things that I would say we???ve provided the most leadership in the industry is great developer support through great software and tools and great support in online and great leadership with (Xbox) Live. And they didn???t respond to either of those.

???Which is just really surprising to me that they spent so much time on the hardware specs. Because at the end of the day that???s not what it???s about. It???s about all of those things in concert.???

???It???s also interesting that they didn???t talk about the Walkman of the 21st century much,??? Allard added, referring to the handheld PSP which hardly rated a mention at the Sony event.

Both Sony and Microsoft boasted they have the most powerful console. Sony seems to have a clear edge in specs, but Allard says it???s more about looking at the platform as a whole than comparing numbers.

???Part of it is the hardware, but the hardware is no good if you don???t have the software to unlock it . . . And then you need the online service as well. It???s those three things that are going to add up.???

And he cautioned against making instant evaluations on graphics shown at one news conference.

???The broader point is it???s not about visual fidelity. It can???t be because we???re reaching the point now where the bottleneck is not the hardware. Xbox is capable of creating better-looking games. Publishers aren???t funding the art required to create better-looking games.???

Allard also clarified reports on the 360 backward compatibility. The 360 will be backward compatible but only for certain top titles. Allard said the software could be changed later to embrace other older titles.

Link http://wham.canoe.ca/xbox/2005/05/19/1047478.html
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mckmas8808 said:
Both Sony and Microsoft boasted they have the most powerful console. Sony seems to have a clear edge in specs, but Allard says it’s more about looking at the platform as a whole than comparing numbers.

Link http://wham.canoe.ca/xbox/2005/05/19/1047478.html

I think that was the expectation but now I dont think that thats the case. Interesting that that was the commentary interjected by the interviewer instead of being an "unbiased" journalist. :rolleyes:
 
Yeah I know blak but its still interesting to hear J. Allard and K.K. in interviews talking about their systems. Its clear to me and it should to everybody here that these two guys want to head in complete different directions. Everyone tends to say that the X360 and the PS3 are basically alike and that they will be fighting over each other while Nintendo goes after a complete different market. I don???t think this is the case. I think the two consoles will have a lot of differences in gamer???s video game experience.
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Yeah I know blak but its still interesting to hear J. Allard and K.K. in interviews talking about their systems. Its clear to me and it should to everybody here that these two guys want to head in complete different directions. Everyone tends to say that the X360 and the PS3 are basically alike and that they will be fighting over each other while Nintendo goes after a complete different market. I don’t think this is the case. I think the two consoles will have a lot of differences in gamer’s video game experience.

Hey mc--- the market for all three is the same the approaches to that market are markedly different and for different reasons.

Nintendo - Games are Nintendo's raison d'etre... if they dont make games what else would they do? Unfortunately for N, both MS and Sony are interlopers in their space, with their own rationales, ambitions and massive bank accounts. Nintendo never wanted to either become a consumer appliance company like Sony or a full bore software services company liek MS but it is forced to compete in those spheres unwillingly.

Sony - Sony is a massive consumer appliance company whos fulfillment is not in making great games per se but in creating a Sony world where all of their hardware and software (movies, games and other entertainment) encompass the user all the time. Nintendo in many ways "seasoned" the market for Sony.

At some point all those little kids that played on the NES and SNES became adults and wanted more than just games from their entertainment device. Sony was always in a unique position to supply that to those consumers who grew up, demanded more adult experiences along with convergence and could afford to pay the premium that it would cost Sony to provide for them (ala the 5billion dollars Spny spent on Cell development alone).

The consumer appliance part of the strategy is one of appliance homogeneity... a PS3 might beget a Sony TV, a Sony TV begets a Sony Sound system and so on and so on... great strategy by a company in a unique position to deliver. Connectivity was never really an issue until now for them because in their consumer appliance world, each person was an atomized consumer - much like MS in the early to mid nineties...

MS - comes from a completely different but also unique perspective and one that has been littered with having to mature very quickly in order to stay alive in the space (Office versus Wordperfect? Windows versus Novell?) Anyway, MS first approached the VG scene as another vendor of hardware to consumers.. however MS doesn't know the hardware space as well as Sony, so that didnt work.

They know software but they never were really invested in creating a non-connected experience, so Nintendos experience made them look fairly immature in comparison.

But what they did know, is that people who play certain kinds of games, like to "play together" and that people like to have as much power as power at their fingertips; of course this perception is an offshoot of their PC experience where tons of theoretical power must exist to give you incrementally better experiences each iteration, but now they'v elearned that a higly efficient, closed box can serve your purposes just as well.

They have been working on creating a soup-to-nuts online experience in the PC area for years and now with a console that sits in the living room, they just get to extend themselves. A pc in an "un-pc" like box has always and will always be their goal. Because the console market is unsaturated, it was the natural and easy evolution of their technology base and closeness to the consumer.

The whole xbox and x360 experience though expensive, is one well worth it for MS. They can get to know the desire of their next and biggest market - the casual consumer. The CC doesnt mind occasionally sitting in front of a computer and thinking, but would much rather sit back with a beer and some friends in front of a big screen screen and play games and watch movies. AND if they so felt like it, they can get on the internet and find something out without leaving their chair, or fiddling with firewalls and antivirus software....

Ok my fingers hurt... anyway REALLY different motivations which lead directly to the choices that were made in hardware, software and alliances in this generation.
 
Now thats what I call a perfect post. I agree with everything. Now I guess the question for each and every consumer is which zone do you fall in Sony, MS, or Nintendo. Some people belong to more than one thus multiconsole buyers.

Am just glad that there will be a clear difference from all three console providers as well as some similarities.
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Its apparent and has been apartent that ms is pushing online and they worked really really hard on expanding xbox live for the x360 .

It seems like sony is going further down the multimedia path on the other hand offering all types of ports and media options . It will be interesting to see which one is better for gaming
 
I grew up a Sega gamer primarily and Nintendo was always my second target platform thus i purchased Genesis, Saturn and Dreamcast.

I bought a playstation and it broke. I never bought another one and did not buy a PS2.

I bought an Xbox and GC this generation because I was demoralized by loss of Sega who provided the experiences I preferred thus the next closest console to that experience for me was GC, and I was not invested with the "Playstation experience" so picking up an Xbox which was CLEARLY beyond Dreamcast ( which at the time was arguable releated to PS2) was a better option for me. Playsation was my darkhorse that never really came around.

This generation I'm excited by x360 and PS3. so I'll probably buy both of those I think the combination wil give me experiences I want for the next few years.
 
Interesting, I primarily started gaming on the Nintendo platforms but few years later I ended up getting a Genesis(the first system I ever owned for myself). At the same time I was also into PC gaming(my cousins PC that is, I never owned a PC until many years later hehe)

So for me it went like this
Genesis>Playstation>*Dreamcast>Playstation2>Xbox

The I put a * beside dreamcast because I bought out of peer pressure..haha. Actually, I wanted a PS2 at the time...but it was almost christmas at the time and half my stash went to buying my dear old mom a gift :)

I didn't have enough for a PS2, but I did for a DC(which was under $200 at the time I believe)so I got that instead. Anyways, Few months later I got a PS2 without any hesitation. To be honest it was after seeing GT3 that drove me to pick up the system, but I ended up picking up a few games even before GT3 hit the shelves. Another reason I got the PS2 because I enjoyed the PSone and was hoping some my favorite games would have follow ups on the PS2. Xbox I got 2 years later :D

So yeah, I'm also looking forward to the X360 and PS3.....
 
Ha my game evolution was is and will be:

Genesis>SNES>PS1>Saturn*>Dreamcast>xbox/GCN>X360>PS3

Back on track with the thread.. I dont really like J. Allard public persona... it almost seems like false confidence... unlike Reggie Fils Aime who is totally balls to the wall even though they are by the slightest margin in third place.

I dont think MS knows how good a console (technically) they have on their hands so they fell back to software/services mode... This thread is like a psychological workup of videogame companies!

Sony in ture fashion threw the kitchen sink into their product because well from their perspective, "what else is there but hardware"?

I myself dont see all those ports on the PS3 as a value add... unless the controllers were bluetooth why use bluetooth for a console? Its NIce to have but really meaningless as an addition. *shrug*

Bluray though I think is BIG.
 
WOW, with around 2 million online subribers to both Sony and Microsoft respectively. And both offering FREE services. Do you really think the casual gamers will care, really now. I will do the online thing when PS3 comes out. But the way you guys make such a deal out of it, you woudl think every X-box/PS3 owner played online.

WHat will own , and this is my prediction, and bare with me, cause I get lost in all the drivvle, and tend to be off topic. But, a month awya from X360's release, Sony holds a conference, inviting hardcore X-box fanboys, and presents playable demos of Motorstorm and Killzone 2. WIthe the same, if not graphically superior builds of the demos/ movies of real gameplay. Therefore leaving the X-masses ovulating for a PS3.

P.S. Due to all the Noob harshnesss dealt out, I've been really bitter. But go ahead, try me
 
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WOW, with around 2 million online subribers to both Sony and Microsoft respectively. And both offering FREE services. Do you really think the casual gamers will care, really now. I will do the online thing when PS3 comes out. But the way you guys make such a deal out of it, you woudl think every X-box/PS3 owner played online.

WHat will own , and this is my prediction, and bare with me, cause I get lost in all the drivvle, and tend to be off topic. But, a month awya from X360's release, Sony holds a conference, inviting hardcore X-box fanboys, and presents playable demos of Motorstorm and Killzone 2. WIthe the same, if not graphically superior builds of the demos/ movies of real gameplay. Therefore leaving the X-masses ovulating for a PS3.

P.S. Due to all the Noob harshnesss dealt out, I've been really bitter. But go ahead, try me

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Ok i read the last part of your post and it's like you're asking for it.
 
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talyn99 said:
WOW, with around 2 million online subribers to both Sony and Microsoft respectively. And both offering FREE services. Do you really think the casual gamers will care, really now. I will do the online thing when PS3 comes out. But the way you guys make such a deal out of it, you woudl think every X-box/PS3 owner played online.

WHat will own , and this is my prediction, and bare with me, cause I get lost in all the drivvle, and tend to be off topic. But, a month awya from X360's release, Sony holds a conference, inviting hardcore X-box fanboys, and presents playable demos of Motorstorm and Killzone 2. WIthe the same, if not graphically superior builds of the demos/ movies of real gameplay. Therefore leaving the X-masses ovulating for a PS3.

P.S. Due to all the Noob harshnesss dealt out, I've been really bitter. But go ahead, try me

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Ok i read the last part of your post and it's like you're asking for it.

Hey, come on, creating a real-time engine which is both better graphically than renders and also playable in ~5 months, can't you do that 'cos I know I could... ;)
 
Taylan: I think the reason online gaming is over emphasized on the internet is because PC gamers play online, those PC gamers who are also console gamers most likely also play online. The discussions are occuring online, after all. So you're seeing a skewed sample. If you following internet discussions nobody can compete this generation if they don't do something drastic to contend with Live! But the numbers show that Live users are actually I small portion of console gamers.

Sony and N have to offer online to compete, but they aren't pushing it as a profit center like MS is and therefore clearly haven't invested the same amount of time and resources.

As far as your P3 Pearl Harbor theory, that's all well and good as long as Sony can actually get enough working units into enough people's hands with enough playable game demos to actually make it work.

Seeing as they had absolutely nothing at all but fairy stories and candy cane dreams at E3, they have quite a bit of work to do before they can even think about hosting the sort of party you're talking about.
 
RancidLunchmeat : Sony have a huge library of content for download. Music, films and games. What makes you think you've no reason to invest?

Talyn99 : It ain't gonna happen.
 
Good question in that perspective. Video On Demand, you're referring to? Personally, I don't think Sony wants to move in that direction and give people free reign to record their licensed digital content. Also, there are bandwith issues everywhere that really make such a prospect futuretech, IMO.

Additionally, it seems to me that media companies would much rather license those rights to outside content providers at this time. Cable companies, etc.. to control and distribute.

Of course, the big question at that point is what exactly is MS investing in Live for? It's a service that doesn't really provide any content because MS doesn't really own any media.

You've stumped me, Geezer. You're right. I'm missing something. Anybody got an idea where MS really plans to make money Live? Microtransactions and the like won't fly. There has to be a bigger picture, and I'm missing it.
 
RancidLunchmeat said:
Good question in that perspective. Video On Demand, you're referring to? Personally, I don't think Sony wants to move in that direction and give people free reign to record their licensed digital content. Also, there are bandwith issues everywhere that really make such a prospect futuretech, IMO.

Additionally, it seems to me that media companies would much rather license those rights to outside content providers at this time. Cable companies, etc.. to control and distribute.

Of course, the big question at that point is what exactly is MS investing in Live for? It's a service that doesn't really provide any content because MS doesn't really own any media.

You've stumped me, Geezer. You're right. I'm missing something. Anybody got an idea where MS really plans to make money Live? Microtransactions and the like won't fly. There has to be a bigger picture, and I'm missing it.

Free?? Who said anything about it being free.
 
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