onetimeposter
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its quite simple. alot of people here were wondering some clarification. Email is a nice tool to do that.
I emailed AGEIA on Xbox 360 Limitations and got a reply
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its quite simple. alot of people here were wondering some clarification. Email is a nice tool to do that.
Uhm, Kim Stowe doesn't work for AGEIA, but is rather a PR person from Stowe Consulting.
I doubt somehow that they are fully qualified to comment beyond the usual PR blurb.
Although I admit it *will* be interesting to see how this develops.
(And by develops I mean is quickly forgotten and the next big obstacle for X/Y/Z company is spreading around the usual haunts.)
I doubt somehow that they are fully qualified to comment beyond the usual PR blurb.
Although I admit it *will* be interesting to see how this develops.
(And by develops I mean is quickly forgotten and the next big obstacle for X/Y/Z company is spreading around the usual haunts.)
onetimeposter
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Vennt said:
Get In Touch With AGEIA
Media Inquiries
Kimberley Stowe
Stowe Consulting, Inc.
kim@kimstowe.com
+1 408.839.8750
I made a media Inquiry (Internet Media). Media = Investigative
mckmas8808
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Hey man thanks for emailing them. At least you got the ball rolling sort to speak.
MechanizedDeath
Regular
Why isn't there an Ageia email address? Who's Kim Stowe? And if you're the one who sent the email, why were you banned at TXB? I'm just curious, b/c this was apparently part of a presentation corroborated by others, and the slide bearing the Ageia logo seems to imply/confirm was was stated before. Just curious. I'm not interested enough to bother emailing that address myself though. PEACE.
onetimeposter
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MechanizedDeath said:
Get In Touch With AGEIA
Media Inquiries
Kimberley Stowe
Stowe Consulting, Inc.
kim@kimstowe.com
+1 408.839.8750
http://www.kimstowe.com/onetimeposter said:
That is NOT Aegia! That's their PR/Marketting wing (the people who deny everything and say everything is lovely)
Maybe you don't know how companies work, but PR = public relations, so yes, that's exactly the people you'd contact for information...Shifty Geezer said:
scooby_dooby
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besides, if you read the actual email she/he sounds pretty informed on the matter:
The Xbox 360 currently processes our SDK, and therefore supports the simulation of fluids. We believe this statement was refering to a generic long term statement about types of architectures for handling certain types of fluids. I know of no detailed analysis regarding the advantages or disadvantages of the different architectures in physics processing. We will be getting in contact with the presenter in Europe to get further clarification tomorrow when everyone is up and about.
Didn't the statement refer to architectures? Sounds like the PR guys know what they're talking about...
The Xbox 360 currently processes our SDK, and therefore supports the simulation of fluids. We believe this statement was refering to a generic long term statement about types of architectures for handling certain types of fluids. I know of no detailed analysis regarding the advantages or disadvantages of the different architectures in physics processing. We will be getting in contact with the presenter in Europe to get further clarification tomorrow when everyone is up and about.
Didn't the statement refer to architectures? Sounds like the PR guys know what they're talking about...
I never said otherwise. The point I was responding is that MechanizedDeath asked how to contact Aegia, and onetimeposter replied withGuden Oden said:
That is not contacting Aegia. That is contacting their public relations firm.
And regards their reply though it sounded fair to me, I feel it's important to remember that PR companies spin things to present everything in a best possible light for their clients, always. From my POV it seems that on the one hand we have an Aegia employee at a games developers conference telling developers about their engine, and on the other hand a PR spokesperson saying 'the SDK is fully implemented...we believe this statement...I know of no detailed analysis regarding the advantages or disadvantages of the different architectures in physics processing.' In essence the PR person doesn't really know about performance, only that the SDK is available in full for XB360. I think it unwise to read this PR spokesperson's personal opinion as definitive proof the Aegia GDC spokesperson was talking nonsense about performance of their engine on the different platforms (which is after all the basis of this thread's existence!).
Without seeing the email that was sent to kim@kimstowe.com it's not possible to determine how clued up the PR company is. If the emailer had asked something like...Scooby_dooby said:
"I've just heard frm the GDC that the PS3's architecture is capable of running the full Novodex engine whereas the XB360 hasn't got the architecture to handle fluid dynamics. Is this true? Were they talking about present hardware or a long term approach to physics simulation architectures?"
...then they would have 'led' an answer. Plus the response has 'we believe...' instead of 'this is the case'. It's an indefinite response to an unknown query
Plus, I'm not saying this happened! I don't know what level of understanding the PR company has, or what level of knowledge they had on the GDC statement (3 in the morning, this may have been the first they heard on the matter and hadn't had chance to phone round). Only that one shouldn't second guess. Rather than assuming something or other happened based on guesses as to unknown quantities, except that the information is inconclusive, and only try to understand the known quantities that we can be pretty sure of.
Contacting aegia's PR firm IS contacting aegia, because it's their PR firm. That's how you contact companies, you go through the PUBLIC RELATIONS department...Shifty Geezer said:
Edit: Why are people voting down this thread? This is not a "bad" thread, it's informative.
I emailed McDonalds..and asked if their food is unhealthy as people claim it to be...and this is the response I got....
McDonalds Public Relations said:
The email he sent is actually availabeShifty Geezer said:Without seeing the email that was sent to kim@kimstowe.com it's not possible to determine how clued up the PR company is. If the emailer had asked something like...
"I've just heard frm the GDC that the PS3's architecture is capable of running the full Novodex engine whereas the XB360 hasn't got the architecture to handle fluid dynamics. Is this true? Were they talking about present hardware or a long term approach to physics simulation architectures?"
...then they would have 'led' an answer. Plus the response has 'we believe...' instead of 'this is the case'. It's an indefinite response to an unknown query
Plus, I'm not saying this happened! I don't know what level of understanding the PR company has, or what level of knowledge they had on the GDC statement (3 in the morning, this may have been the first they heard on the matter and hadn't had chance to phone round). Only that one shouldn't second guess. Rather than assuming something or other happened based on guesses as to unknown quantities, except that the information is inconclusive, and only try to understand the known quantities that we can be pretty sure of.
Apparently this guy is a poster over at TXB (not surprising). He made a similar thread over there before he was banned. Interestingly enough he was banned for creating a fake email message from major nelson. Not saying that this message is fake but it's an interesting coincidence. Anyway, as you suspected shifty, his email gave the pr guy all the info he needed to make an "informed" response. The TXB thread can be found here
I think some of you should remember Hasan Ahmad or hasanahmad for being banned here before. Its a coincidence that this person here is showing of this email from him....another user called him out in his other thread....
What? you seem to be doing the exact opposite.
Thanks bigfurb for the info.
onetimeposter/hasanahmad said:
What? you seem to be doing the exact opposite.
Thanks bigfurb for the info.
Whatever Hasan's background it doesn't take away from the validity of the PR reply, but given the source the messages there's certainly no reason to believe the company Aegia uses to handle it's public and media requirements has any insight into the tech's implementation on the different consoles. This seems pretty straight forward and I can't see much more eason for this thread to remain open, especially seeing as it seems set to become a 'this guy from this forum is a plonker'...'no he's not, he's a great insider' debacle. 