D9P/G94: 9600 GT on 19th of February

I smile when I see 9600 nomenclature and 8500, both of which are now current nVidia numbers. Only in the graphics industry.

I just retired an ATI 9600 on my oldest of 5 computers and threw away 2 ATI 8500 sitting in a junk bin in my basement.

nVidia is taking over ATI, 1 model at a time wiping away even their history. :LOL:
 
Valzic said:
I smile when I see 9600 nomenclature and 8500, both of which are now current nVidia numbers. Only in the graphics industry.

I just retired an ATI 9600 on my oldest of 5 computers and threw away 2 ATI 8500 sitting in a junk bin in my basement.

nVidia is taking over ATI, 1 model at a time wiping away even their history. :LOL:
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Won't be long before we'll see a HD5800 Series and HD5600 Series and maybe even a HD5200 Series? Makes me wonder if AMD might opt on skipping the 5 series and just rename everything once again. :p
 
Maybe ATi(it's always Ati that reacts) is waiting to see what Nvidia does, if they go with the 9800/9600 numbers .. then ATI might go with the 5800/5900. :D

/okthatsjustsilly off

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So much for that $150 DX10.1 8800 GT :(

Oh well, still looks to be a good value. Likely much more overclockable than ATi's offerings at the same price point too.
 
AnarchX said:
No D3D10.1 and performance far behind 8800 GT? No good D9P...:???:
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I don't know, it doesn't sound too bad. Everybody lamented (rightfully) there are no good midrange-performance (or whatever you call that segment) cards, with the huge gap (in price and performance) between a 8600GT (or HD2600XT) and a 8800GTS, with only the overpriced 8600GTS in-between.
Now that segment has made a truly stunning comeback, actually all new cards released so far since then belong to that segment (with the exception of the new 8800GTS) - ati hd 3850, 3870, nvidia 8800GT 256/512, all cheaper than an old 8800GTS yet way more powerful than that 8600GTS. Now we'll see another 2 nvidia cards in this price range, the 8800GS and the 9600GT. The 9600GT could be quite competitive to hd 3850, maybe it's not faster but it could certainly be priced very competitively, and it might even have lower power consumption. The 8800GS though OTOH is a bit of an odd card since it doesn't look to me like it's a whole lot cheaper to make than a 8800GT but performance not much better than a 9600GT.
I see though how you could be disappointed if you were expecting "next-gen performance", I fail to see what's next generation about this chip. So far rather looks like a down-sized G92 not a next gen part to me...
 
CJ said:
Won't be long before we'll see a HD5800 Series and HD5600 Series and maybe even a HD5200 Series?
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Well closer are the HD4xxx series. I guess we could see HD4200, HD4400 or HD4600, though so far it doesn't look like AMD wants to use "00" for the lowest performing member in a family...
 
mczak said:
Well closer are the HD4xxx series. I guess we could see HD4200, HD4400 or HD4600, though so far it doesn't look like AMD wants to use "00" for the lowest performing member in a family...
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I guess that leaves AMD with room to add a cut-down card if they were forced to by a nVidia release. Sort of makes sense if you are trying to have your numbered have some type of sense.

Not that ATI or nVidia could be accused of CONSISTENTLY have numbering systems that makes sense :)
 
AnarchX said:
NVIDIA Details GeForce 9600 GT

650/1625/900MHz, 256Bit/16ROPs, 32TA/TFs seems to be final specs, no information about shaders, but seems to be 64SPs.
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From that article

"NVIDIA publicly confirmed other details of D9M: DirectX 10.1 support, Shader Model 4.0, OpenGL 2.1 and PCIe 2.0 support just to name a few. "

So whats the deal? is it DX10.1 or not?

Specs look much more nicer compared to what we got initally from the 8600 series.
 
AnarchX said:
Nice, so the full-covering cooler was true. But 256SPs and only 30% faster than Ultra?
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Consistent with two lower-clocked 8800 GTS class G92 GPU's (some 500 to 550MHz, instead of 650MHz ? Shader clocks are obviously a bit more shady at this time).

My understanding is that this is NOT their Geforce 8800 Ultra single-GPU direct replacement, but merely an answer to R680 (which is an HD3870 x 2).
Any "true" high-end next-generation product will probably appear no sooner than early Summer, at best.


Still, it may give hope that certain rumored features of this "9800 GX2" are already in the 8800 GS/GT/GTS or even G98-based 8400 GS cards, namely, DX10.1/SM4.1.
 
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AnarchX said:
Nice, so the full-covering cooler was true. But 256SPs and only 30% faster than Ultra?
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Guess that gives us a few hints on its other specs. The core clock will obviously be lower due to power/heat. Wonder if its going to be 512MB or 1024MB since it will use 2 G92s core (65nm).

Actually i think nVIDIA isnt supporting DX10.1 with the 9 series. Kind of weird for them not to do so.

Unless theyve been focusing much more R&D/resources on G100 or w/e its codename is while using (or milking) G80/G9x derivatives as a stop gap.
 
Shouldn't we get the GX2 discussion in a new thread, if possible?:D
 
Sound_Card said:
Do you think Sli scales 100% all the time?
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30% faster is just enough to stay ahead of R680 (as it has been rumored to be about 15% faster than a 8800 Ultra).
So this would make a "9800 GX2" roughly 15% faster than a HD3870x2/R680.

Still, a pretty lame proposition, IMHO.
A "true" high-end to a nearly-one year old product should find a way to be 80-90% faster than it in the real world, not 30%...
 
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