It should be though. I have largely struggled with this dual SKU business but if we take the numbers at 12 and 24 then it looks proper. The numbers aren’t rational, I get that but the positioning is. As a product manager 12 and 24 make a much better lineup.MS sure surprised everyone there. With a low-end console that is TWICE as fast as their own high-end offering! That's some seriously agressive strateg right there. Nobody had predicted that one!
24 teraflops. Realistic. When is this supposed console coming out? It's something like twice the flagship performance of current GPUs which are at about the limit of cost-effective lithography so you aren't going to get 24 TFs on 7nm. So you're looking at a bleeding-edge, biggest-possible 5nm chip in 2021. The sort of chip sold for $1000 as a desktop GPU going into a console. Is the business strategy a $500 loss leader? Or to sell 30,000 of these in total, like exotic sports cars?I don’t know if 12-24 is realistic...
24 teraflops. Realistic. When is this supposed console coming out? It's something like twice the flagship performance of current GPUs which are at about the limit of cost-effective lithography so you aren't going to get 24 TFs on 7nm. So you're looking at a bleeding-edge, biggest-possible 5nm chip in 2021. The sort of chip sold for $1000 as a desktop GPU going into a console. Is the business strategy a $500 loss leader? Or to sell 30,000 of these in total, like exotic sports cars?
Or are we talking a 2024 release when 24 TFs will be affordable?
Sorry that was supposed to be rhetorical. The product line up is what mattered to me more. Don’t care if it’s 9-12. Or 12-15. Just don’t clog up the product line.24 teraflops. Realistic
If we consider transistor performance between 7nm and 16nm it is really possible.24 teraflops. Realistic. When is this supposed console coming out? It's something like twice the flagship performance of current GPUs which are at about the limit of cost-effective lithography so you aren't going to get 24 TFs on 7nm. So you're looking at a bleeding-edge, biggest-possible 5nm chip in 2021. The sort of chip sold for $1000 as a desktop GPU going into a console. Is the business strategy a $500 loss leader? Or to sell 30,000 of these in total, like exotic sports cars?
Or are we talking a 2024 release when 24 TFs will be affordable?
What's possible? 24 TF in a console at what price and what release date?If we consider transistor performance between 7nm and 16nm it is really possible.
TSMC i think is who AMD will be partnering with.Since this is the baseless thread - has there been any word on which foundry MS or Sony will be using? I have been assuming TSMC 7nm or 7nm(+) - partial EUV. (The whole Nvidia going to EUV Samsung 7nm and an old rumor about a PS4 slim going to Samsung EUV 7nm is making me question my assumptions.)
No one that's rooted in reality at all is talking about 24 TF.If we're talking numbers as large as 24 TF.
It's a GPU that doubles as a whole home heater and BBQ set.It's a dual GPU...no...no...dual SOC SKU. 2 consoles in one, the ultimate local multiplayer machine!
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SB
If we consider transistor performance between 7nm and 16nm it is really possible.
Pretty sure the base og XO was 1.3 TF?4x S = 4.8Tf
2x X = 12Tf
Would gel with one of the Lockhart/Anaconda rumours.