Baseless Next Generation Rumors with no Technical Merits [post E3 2019, pre GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]

[ultragpu]

21% more expensive.
21% louder.
21% more likely it's just some post to try and get a rise out people.

But let's be honest, no one really cares about those kind of metrics do they? What do people care about these days, power, power and more power.
But more realistically I think the SSD speed of PS5 is 21% faster. I doubt the gulf of gpu power this time would be this significant.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

But more realistically I think the SSD speed of PS5 is 21% faster. I doubt the gulf of gpu power this time would be this significant.

Realistically, it's dumb to try and interpret it. There's absolutely nothing to link this fact with anything. Even if it is a genuine metric, there's no way of knowing what metric it's comparing, or even what way it works - 21% more or 21% less or 21% of?

It's blind guessing. There's zero logic or rational consideration to be had. Dedicating any amount of consideration to this empty tweets is just folly. If you want to discuss how a random number could relate to the consoles, why not entertain yourself rolling percentile dice and then deciding what console parameter the number that comes up relates to?

 

[chris1515]

But let's be honest, no one really cares about those kind of metrics do they? What do people care about these days, power, power and more power.
But more realistically I think the SSD speed of PS5 is 21% faster. I doubt the gulf of gpu power this time would be this significant.

I have a better explanation, Tidux is just a shitty source.

 

[PSman1700]

What do people care about these days, power, power and more power.

The general people? Don’t think so. System wars people? Clearly.

 

[ultragpu]

OK for the record I don't put any stakes in that tweet, just something dumb and fun to throw about in time of drought. I would trust Kleegamefan, Matt or Andrew Reiner any day over this Tidux fella.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Even if Mark Cerny himself posted "21%", it means absolutely nothing and there's no discussion to be had around it. Listing the hundred different parameters that could be 21% more/less is not useful debate. Saying which one of those parameters one would prefer is not useful debate.

 

[PSman1700]

Can only imagine the discussions going on GAF, setera etc, about that 21% metric. Everything ranging from TFlops to the amount of thermal paste used for the apu cooling system.

Oh and i wouldn't put much faith in Kleegamefan, matt or andrew reiner either, whatever they have said or going to say. Attention whores always want more attention.

 

[BRiT]

It's closer to 33% actually. Do you consider the space in your numbers?

Absolutely.

 

[BRiT]

Even if Mark Cerny himself posted "21%", it means

If Cerny posted it then it means PS5 will cost you 21% of your yearly salary. So start saving up!

 

[Deleted member 13524]

Even if Mark Cerny himself posted "21%", it means absolutely nothing and there's no discussion to be had around it.

If someone credible (which is not the case) had made the 21% faster or more powerful statement, it would 99.9% mean higher GPU TFLOPs throughput.

 

[AlphaWolf]

If someone credible (which is not the case) had made the 21% faster or more powerful statement, it would 99.9% mean higher GPU TFLOPs throughput.

The sky can be whatever color you want on your mythical world.

 

[MrFox]

balanced at 21

 

[BRiT]

balanced at 21

 

[AlNom]

 

[Barrabas]

Maybe some additional PS5 news soon?
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019...ng_as_playstation_celebrates_25th_anniversary

 

[iroboto]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1200823939326459904

smh.. oh Tom. I hate to call you out on it; but you're the senior editor at The Verge. You should know better than this.
You know it's nonsense not because MS is trying to 'surprise' Sony. That's a terrible fanboy take.
You know it's nonsense because none of your data points converge. It's your job to only publish something when your sources and all the data points line up.

MS could very well be sending out a variety of non-finalized specs to a variety of different 3p partners not in the hopes of screwing over Sony but in hopes that you (journalists) cannot converge the data points. I wouldn't say that's lying to their partners, but let's be real, most of the leaks are coming from sources they cannot contain (likely 3P). Not to mention this is an effective method of seeing who is breaking their NDA (by seeing which one of their specs are leaked online). Once the real dev kits are out, convergence will be much faster. So MS is probably just sitting on it until they feel it's worthwhile to risk those specs getting out. I think they have sufficient data points that suggest that developers can develop for MS without the devkit; considering how much reuse there will be with the tools and APIs.

 

[Mskx]

Eh, i don't think it's impossible that the Xbox team has a chip on their shoulder and are petty enough to go out of their way to attempt to create the equivalent of the PS4s "8GB GDDR5" moment.

Jason Schreier on chimes in on resetera:

Not sure if the "trying to surprise Sony" part is quite right -- common sense would suggest that, like with the Xbox One, Microsoft is just running behind schedule and will launch pretty hot -- but I've talked to a few third-party developers who said they were frustrated by the lack of info on Scarlett, especially compared to Prospero.

 

[PSman1700]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1200823939326459904

smh.. oh Tom. I hate to call you out on it; but you're the senior editor at The Verge. You should know better than this.
You know it's nonsense not because MS is trying to 'surprise' Sony. That's a terrible fanboy take.
You know it's nonsense because none of your data points converge. It's your job to only publish something when your sources and all the data points line up.

MS could very well be sending out a variety of non-finalized specs to a variety of different 3p partners not in the hopes of screwing over Sony but in hopes that you (journalists) cannot converge the data points. I wouldn't say that's lying to their partners, but let's be real, most of the leaks are coming from sources they cannot contain (likely 3P). Not to mention this is an effective method of seeing who is breaking their NDA (by seeing which one of their specs are leaked online). Once the real dev kits are out, convergence will be much faster. So MS is probably just sitting on it until they feel it's worthwhile to risk those specs getting out. I think they have sufficient data points that suggest that developers can develop for MS without the devkit; considering how much reuse there will be with the tools and APIs.

Yes, all this nonsense that their powerfull is only breaking people's dreams later on. They will be consoles, ie midrange stuff.

 

[Shortbread]

Eh, i don't think it's impossible that the Xbox team has a chip on their shoulder and are petty enough to go out of their way to attempt to create the equivalent of the PS4s "8GB GDDR5" moment.

Jason Schreier on chimes in on resetera:

So Prospero is PS5/SDK codename. I guess that anonymous tipster from Gizmodo actually has inside information. FYI: Supposedly Gizmodo (via the anonymous tipster) had PS5 SDK photos before they became public, as well as alluding to the PS5 RT solution being more robust.

 

[BRiT]

as well as alluding to the PS5 RT solution being more robust.

It's impossible to compare something to nothing, so they can allude all they want as it's utterly meaningless when nearly no next-box devkits are in the wild.