Baseless Next Generation Rumors with no Technical Merits [post E3 2019, pre GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]
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I mean that's not a wild conclusion to jump to if you go by his statement...
“What is not very clear or visible is because we are competing in the space, so it’s very difficult to discuss anything about the price at this point of time, and depending upon the price level, we may have to determine the promotion that we are going to deploy and how much costs we are prepared to pay."
I mean, you could also read it as a generic "we have a competitor, so what they do affects our pricing" statement, in which who's more powerful is irrelevant.
Or what if they are packing tremendous tech in and aiming for 599, but then MS comes in at 399, so they have to subsidize.
IMO it's easier to read it as discussing a loss leader, though. But not necessary.
The thing is they do have an public idea about MS box from the Series X reveal.
Agreed.
because in the question was mentioned 1-2 years, I expect most xgen games to be xplay. Multi-player to just look nicer, single player may contain additional benefits beyond just looks.
Albert Panello gave his interpretation of what those statements mean.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ne...a-pace-never-seen-before.165711/post-28842858
His view on the quote you posted above is as follows
CFExpress 2.0 maxes out at 4 GB/s.
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If it's storage expansion, I can't see why it would be anything other than M.2 NVMe using PCIe 4.0 4x. All Microsoft needs to do is include a plastic enclosure that fits.
I'm glad they are doing this. Aside from the obvious, being able to easily expand the available storage, I like being able to store games on removable storage because it allows for easy system upgrades and allows me to take my games to my friend's houses and play them without having to re-download them. Neither of these things happen very often, but when they have happened it has been really nice.
This quote can be interpreted how ever you want depending on what you're trying to align that interpretation with...
In theory SONY should have the best deal with those electronic manufacturers because PS consoles have the largest quantity of all the game hardware.
Therefore I expect PS5 will have much better memory system including SSD and RAM.
If PS5 really has great revision on its APU I am curious what kind of RAM will be adopted.
Therefore I expect PS5 will have much better memory system including SSD and RAM.
If PS5 really has great revision on its APU I am curious what kind of RAM will be adopted.
They might not be as far ahead in hardware purchasing as you think. Sony sells more consoles to us, but MS buys a lot of blades to put in their data centres. I daresay Sony still buys more but it isn't as clear as just comparing console sales.
Yes because the dram manufacturers are known for being fiercely competitive on price...
They are known for being fierce negociators.
Sony negociated a procurement deal with samsung for 8GB GDDR5 back when posters on B3D said it would be $160 on the BOM because that was the latest estimate from gpu card manufacturers. They got it for nearly half that. Sony praised their procurement team for the deal.
This isn't some walmart sale on ram with coupons. Each supply contract is different.
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When they're not forming cartels you mean?
Especially when they are. They try to manipulate supply/demand without getting caught. Very large contracts affects this in a legal way. Delaying building new fabs too.
DRAM and especially flash manufacturers have lots of potential customers and when you are securing a contract you are asking a manufacturer to allocate a portion of their production to the part you require instead of producing something else for someone else. Don't get me wrong, it will be a desirable contract to secure and companies will compete on price to get it, but there's a limit to how cheap they will go since at some point there is more money to be made by directing their limited production capacity elsewhere.
To clarify: Sony's potential to produce a lot of PS5's will absolutely allow them to secure a favorable contract for component supplies. I do not feel that the contract will be favorable enough to have a "much better memory system including SSD and RAM". That is going to require them to direct more of their component supply cost towards those things.
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He means consumers. They’re competitive against consumers
I used ellipses, perhaps I should have been more overt and tagged it /sarcasm.
I answered to your sarcasm.
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