Baseless Next Generation Rumors with no Technical Merits [post E3 2019, pre GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]

It’s all power supply efficiency. More efficient AC to DC and DC to DC.

 

I seriously doubt its all power supply efficiency.

 

Arent we pretty sure it would with RDNA2, Zen CPU, SSD...the totality would be a "nice little system", that would be overall speedier and a better package than a X1X. And what was the number DF came up with that RDNA is better than GCN by? Wasn't it close to 50%?

Still not convinced it's a good business idea.

I mean to me it's like MS might have the most power, then turn around and kinda shoot that advantage in the foot by supporting a 4TF lowest common denominator.

 

What else could it be? Same CPU, but higher clocks. More CUs, and higher clocked. 50% more RAM chips, and those are higher clocked too. The only thing to be done is increase power supply efficiency and lower voltage to the absolute min, which is exactly what the Hovis Method does.

 

https://www.gizchina.com/2020/01/14/microsoft-xbox-series-x-will-use-groupe-controlled-pcie-4-0-ssd/

 

Should be at really bargain price a 4 TF machine.. 160/170 dollars, maybe digital edition and with no SSD. Also Sony I think is going to make a ps4pro (with cutted 7nm chips) digital edition, with no SSD at around the same price. Old used ps4 and ps4pro will keep a bit more value because of the disk reader. Same with One-X, One-S and even One..... I think i new machine only the edge more costly products will keep the disk reader.....

 

I was under the impression SSD was included (by all the leaks anyway).

 

When i search around about this all the results keep saying it was a report from Digitimes but i can't find the actual source report they are all talking about?

 

It's likely behind a paywall, or a bunch of random websites are tagging digitimes with the same rumor for giggles.

 

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20200114PD207.html

Behind paywall.

Tommy

 

Ah, just figured it out: Seems like this is just the Phison controller in Xbox report from the other day that has gone through layers of machine translation and misunderstanding.

Phison is "群联" which can also be read "Qunlian" and somehow it became about an actual SSD and not a controller.

 

Pretty sure having the SSD is necessary for it to be "next-gen".

Whether or not it has a disc drive or not is another question.

I honestly don't expect this to be less than $299.

 

Problem is not many sites did tests on these things and those that did. One I did find had results similar to mine. The 1x eurogamer/df have is about as good as it gets. I could mention my own system at 192w and 57dB but when I do people tend to get a bit defensiv. My temps are lower cause my game room sits at ~65*.

Some of it definitely is. PRO uses a 310w power supply. Probably some cheapo unit that's really inefficient. On overage it's probably running at ~40%load/60% peak.

 

XBX : Hovis method + more power efficient (and expensive) power supply, can consume from 175W to 200W depending of lottery (I suspect the first models given to reviewers were the lucky ones with max 175W, but more recent models were usually higher than that, up to 199W)

Pro: Max 175W (consistent) on the last Pro model.

 

Corrected for truth

 

If he deletes the tweet

 

Inefficient PSU cannot fully account for it, otherwise the mosfet would have a much bigger and hotter heatsink. It's a classic Delta design, nothing fancy, nothing bad either. It's used well within it's highest efficiency region (60% of full, so must be above 90% eff), so at best there's 5% more here than 1X. Maybe 8 watts?

They used a very early 14/16 design from AMD, a full year earlier than MS and added vega features like DRM. That means no time to have revisions to reduce power or reduce voltage or improve yield. I would see this as the most probable. Getting good yield with a higher voltage, both to reach that 399 price point and to launch a year early. (and they didn't use the TDP roulette design either)

 

Yes. Digitimes automatically paywalls their content a few days after release.

There is plenty of DC-DC to account for too.

 

I thought it might, but the DCDCs on Pro are very good, and there is only a range of 92% to 95% between worst and best ones anyway.

 

it looks this is not the only "leak", but there has been a massive leak of PS5 details, from price to power to everything else.