AMD sales surpass Intel!

[Deepak]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20051109/tc_pcworld/123474

Chip-making underdog Advanced Micro Devices edged past Intel in October in supplying processors for the U.S. retail PC market, according to a study by research firm Current Analysis.

Current Analysis, with headquarters in Washington, D.C., collects its data by surveying major U.S. consumer-electronics retailers. In October, AMD processors were in 49.8 percent of the PCs those retailers sold, compared with a 48.5 percent share for Intel.

 

[NocturnDragon]

The title should be: AMD retail sales surpass Intel!
That's a little different story.
Sadly for AMD intel also still has the biggest revenue share for retail PCs.
BTW, how much is retail market compared to oem?

This clearly shows that AMD is perceived to have the best processors right now, but either:
1) cannot produce enough to convince the big OEMs to switch
2) Intel has very powerful ways to keep the OEM by it's own side
3) Both of the 2 above

 

[John Reynolds]

I loved the recent ZD interview with Mike Dell. "I'm sure Intel will catch back up [performance-wise] sometime in the future." Oh, so you acknowledge that the only processor you're offering in your various desktop solutions is indeed generally slower, but for unspecified business decisions your company will remain an exclusive buyer of those parts.

 

[rashly]

There are more reasons why an OEM will go with a CPU than just performance.

The main reasons why are probably due to Intel's tactics and the marketability of the Pentium name.

Also, stability plays a key role. Generally, Intel's chipsets are much more stable than anything out there for AMD processors.

 

[silence]

There are more reasons why an OEM will go with a CPU than just performance.

The main reasons why are probably due to Intel's tactics and the marketability of the Pentium name.

Also, stability plays a key role. Generally, Intel's chipsets are much more stable than anything out there for AMD processors.

BS..... Intel simply gives loads of money to keep OEMs from using AMD.

 

[Cartoon Corpse]

is that a statement that gamers are a significant segment of the cpu buying market?

 

[Joe DeFuria]

BS..... Intel simply gives loads of money to keep OEMs from using AMD.

So what you're saying is, Intel is cheaper...

 

[Sonic]

Dell could use AMD if they chose to do so, but it would end up being in very limited quantities. The number of computers Dell sells in one quarter might be more than what AMD can offer in terms of CPU's for an entire year.

Intel really does have a nice hold on the market, and in turn Dell has a nice hold on Intel. It is simply cheaper for Dell to go with Intel because they command such a large percentage of the market. They can negotiate very sweet deals with Intel that makes buying processors very cheap, yet still quite lucrative for Intel.

When AMD does get the fab capacity to finally start competing with Intel in the OEM market then that would give Dell even more leverage with Intel for lower prices.



AMD makes wonderful processors and their business is growing. They just need to add more capacity at the moment so it can fulfill orders from all the different PC manufacturers that would love to have sell machines with AMD processors. They are building a new fab aren't they?

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

So what you're saying is, Intel is cheaper...

Maybe for the seller, but not for the customers. Intel offers massive "marketing campaign" funds to companies that are exclusively Intel, and that's why so many companies still sell Intel only. It's the same reason that most places only sell PCs with Windows - if you sell PCs with anything else, you lose your discount and are effectively financially penalised for not exclusively following the Intel or MS party line.

 

[Bobbler]

They are building a new fab aren't they?

Fab 36 (AMD's newest fab in Dresden) is either almost finished or finished now. That should open up a pretty nice increases in production capacity (300mm wafers).

 

[silence]

Fab 36 (AMD's newest fab in Dresden) is either almost finished or finished now. That should open up a pretty nice increases in production capacity (300mm wafers).

i think it started to produce, but limited quantities.... but i might be wrong...

 

[Tahir2]

So what you're saying is, Intel is cheaper...

Through rebate programs Intel rewards large (and we are talking about Tier One companies) companies. The reason for going this route is that Intel is able to keep their processors at a higher MSRP.

It's not as simple as saying Intel are cheaper than AMD as they are not cheaper for "everyone" as this tactic (of rebates and special offers to companies that buy large volumes of Intel processors and motherboards) may be considered illegal in some regions of the worldwide economy and these rebates are not available to the end user or smaller companies.