AMD RV770 refresh -> RV790

ATi (or CCC) OverDrive help doesn't state anything about warranty (it even doesn't use word "overclocking", but "manual change of GPU clock speed"). Every sentence of the instructions begins by words: "you can...". If the operating instructions nor the overderive help states anything about loss of warranty by using OD, than you can't lose the warranty - at least according to local law. Consumer is not obliged to check manufacturers website - all conditions and instructions must be included in fly sheet (paper or electronical) together with the product.
 
neliz said:
I don't know what they mean with "factory settings" but to me it reads as any support (including warranty calls) is void when you overclock (i.e. run outside of factory specifications)
Click to expand...

To me it reads that if you damage your processor by overclocking, that damage is not covered by the warranty. But if you overclock and your processor fails for some reason not associated with overclocking, then that will still be covered by the warranty.
 
Just look into CCC's help: There is no word about losing warranty by using Overdrive.
ccccctsbv.jpg
 
rjc said:
I am revising down my guess for the number of wafers needed say absolute max 500(ie 100k chips) for launch and less per month afterwards. Quite possibly alot less. Don't think is going to have the volume that the RV770 enjoyed.
Click to expand...

GPU Cafe reckons around 40k for launch 250-300k units by end of quarter. Apparently launch date is now in process of being pulled forward if they can get the driver ready.

Looks like product might have slightly restricted supply to try and keep the price up above $200. This will put pressure on the RV740 to cover alot of the market on its own - wondering if 40nm can get to high enough frequencies & there are enough memory variations to cover all this.
 
rjc said:
GPU Cafe reckons around 40k for launch 250-300k units by end of quarter. Apparently launch date is now in process of being pulled forward if they can get the driver ready.

Looks like product might have slightly restricted supply to try and keep the price up above $200. This will put pressure on the RV740 to cover alot of the market on its own - wondering if 40nm can get to high enough frequencies & there are enough memory variations to cover all this.
Click to expand...

i cant believe all the talk of tons of boards running wild in the wild and still NO comprehensive leaked benchmarks.

As for the other part of the post, wont ATI maybe have old stock of 4870 to run through for a while?
 
Rangers said:
i cant believe all the talk of tons of boards running wild in the wild and still NO comprehensive leaked benchmarks.
Click to expand...
Maybe it's the lack of drivers causing the problem? Suppose someone could go through and do a set of benchmarks, but perhaps they are scared all their work will be invalidated by a new "magic" driver in a week or so. The leaks and rumors are sort of free publicity for the product. Must annoy the reviewers though, as leaves less for them to reveal and less excitement in their review.

As for the other part of the post, wont ATI maybe have old stock of 4870 to run through for a while?
Click to expand...

Yeah guess so, maybe a high percent of RV770s now reach 4870 clocks so can keep selling that part, so given GDDR5 availablilty. Thought before RV770 was EOL but now having second thoughts, maybe early RV740s will only be at low clocks and the RV770 is still needed for awhile. More likely though is still EOL and sales are slow enough that it wil keep selling for awhile even at $150. Also the qimonda stuff is bothering me, cant see how this wont be a least some disruption to AMDs plans.

Economy is bad enough that i think the max they will be able to launch this at is $250 or so, with a slide to $200 within a few months.

[Edit - yikes just read above, may hit $US200 even sooner!]
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Although I do agree that it seems that the Raedon 4870 is sucking a lot more juice than its TDP when Furmark is concerned, looking at this graph also shows that it beats out the GTX 285 on the Furmark test, except on the 1280x1024 resolution. It makes me wonder if this is the case (power draw-wise) in games where the 4870 beats 285 in terms of frame rates... aside from the game being specifically coded to be optimized for a particular graphics chip maker... i.e., Crysis for Nvidia...


Oh yeah, before I forget here's the link: http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/bfggtx285/7.html
 
SirPauly said:
Over Drive from ATI is fully guaranteed over-clocking according to Catalyst Maker from a quote from some time ago. Did go back into my personal memory banks and recalled him saying it:

http://www.driverheaven.net/dhinterviews/terryandrew/
Click to expand...

Nice how you failed to add the rest of the interview.

Terry: It’s only a disappointment if you are expecting to overclock your card as high as you want. You must remember that Overdrive is a function that is fully guaranteed. We are the only graphic vendor that lets you get higher than stock speeds without voiding your warrantee. With this in mind we saw an opportunity for improvement with Overdrive.3. It is currently available on the X850 XT-PE product and will be rolled out to more products in the future (we can’t bring it back to older products).
Click to expand...

Notice the product supported in that interview meaning that was quoted years ago. Also, since then AMD have taken over and so what Jawed and neliz posted has more relevance in this discussion.

US
 
Don't forget, that...
Arnold Beckenbauer said:
But AMD Overdrive Software is something different than CCC's Overdrive.
Click to expand...
There isn't any single word in the website about loosing warranty when using CCC OD, any single restriction in help for CCC OD and any single warning on the driver page, that using official features of official driver can lead to loss of warranty.

CCC OD says nothing about overclocking - according the description this feature serves to "...automatically set optimal GPU and memory clock speeds for your GPU." According to ATi/AMD we talk about range of optimal clock(s), not overclocking.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
Notice the product supported in that interview meaning that was quoted years ago. Also, since then AMD have taken over and so what Jawed and neliz posted has more relevance in this discussion.

US
Click to expand...

Before the X850 the CCC overclocking tool came through "third party" software like "Sapphire Redline" That piece really didn't show you anything about warranty.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
Nice how you failed to add the rest of the interview.



Notice the product supported in that interview meaning that was quoted years ago. Also, since then AMD have taken over and so what Jawed and neliz posted has more relevance in this discussion.

US
Click to expand...

It is an exact quote from Catalyst Maker on OverDrive. It's not a contest about what is more relevant.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top