ALLARD intervieuw: xbox , halo psp en ds talk

It's patently obvious that the PSP is aimed at the young 20's "hip" crowd and not the 12yr old GBA crowd

GBA isn't aimed at any one age group, that's one of the reasons why its successful (for instance 33% of GBA owers are over 18.) The fact that PSP is aimed so squarely at a single age group could be its undoing. I believe that was what Lazy8s was saying.
 
My camera phone's battery lasts about 2 times longer than my non color phone did a year and a half ago. Same thing with my fathers laptop. His laptops last longer and longer on one charge
And I bet it still lasts a pretty damn short, and you/he has to recharge it constantly (that, is you use it reasonably). And I also bet they were all quite expensive...

Honestly, I'm of the opinion that the battery life just doesn't get too much into an equation of buyers decision when choosing the new gadgetry. Everyone has just accepted that batteries on everything don't last very long, and they have to re-charge them constantly.
 
Teasy said:
GBA isn't aimed at any one age group, that's one of the reasons why its successful (for instance 33% of GBA owers are over 18.)

Hmm, not so sure 33% is that great of a number. Anyhow we really need more granularity in your data (got a link?) for more accuracy.

Teasy said:
The fact that PSP is aimed so squarely at a single age group could be its undoing. I believe that was what Lazy8s was saying.

He never mentioned "age" once. His arguments are focused on the gaming sector, which is my whole point; to me Sony is NOT aiming solely at the gaming sector. They are trying to market the PSP as something "more". I have to insert the usual disclaimer that I am not arguing they will be successful. My disagreement with him lies solely with his misinterpretation of Sony's ADs and target audience.
 
Nice how he says nintendo belongs in the handheld market only, yeah, they're no competition for microsoft in the home market.

Also interesting how he said games should be able to play on any portable. What's the difference between that and console games playing on any console? Microsoft should have just become a publisher of console titles, it'd fit that idea and microsoft would be making money off of consoles instead of losing billions.
Halo wouldn't have sold as much, due to not having the hype of being the best game on a single console and an exclusive, but it still could have sold well. There could have been a pc version, a gamecube version with slightly toned down graphics, and maybe a ps2 with either super toned down graphics or a different style of graphics. But probably every other xbox exclusive would have sold better as a multiplatform game.
Also, xbox live still could have been done, except it would be a thing for microsoft published games, and extend to all consoles. Imagine being able to log on to xbox live from a pc, or from a gamecube, or a ps2, or maybe even a gameboy.
 
Ty said:
Teasy said:
GBA isn't aimed at any one age group, that's one of the reasons why its successful (for instance 33% of GBA owers are over 18.)

Hmm, not so sure 33% is that great of a number. Anyhow we really need more granularity in your data (got a link?) for more accuracy.

it is from E3 press conf. As for knowning if it is significant ?? 33% of all GBA is 20M.
 
jvd said:
My camera phone's battery lasts about 2 times longer than my non color phone did a year and a half ago. This is talk time btw not stand by. Stand by is the same. So battery life is going up . Same thing with my fathers laptop. His laptops last longer and longer on one charge
Going up in comparison to earlier-generation, worse-quality rechargables because they were--you know--worse, but we're still dealing in terms of 2-3 hours of functional usage (on average) which is supposedly in the realms of completely unacceptable and something no one would ever put up with. And it is well below what people were used to getting previously, where batteries were supposed to power something for days' worth of usage because you had to keep purchasing them.

Granted plenty of devices (and the same types of devices) still function as long or longer, but the types of devices we now use has gone way up, their expectations way down, and the culture has continually moved to embrace them anyway. Functionaliy, fun, "glitz," status... There are ever-so-many traits that trump economics and convenience.
 
Ty, who do you think is buying all the original NES games that are released for the GBA? Surely not kids. Also the GBA has many great RPGs, which are usually not played by kids either. I think especially the SP with its very slick design draw a lot of adults to the GBA.
 
Going up in comparison to earlier-generation, worse-quality rechargables because they were--you know--worse, but we're still dealing in terms of 2-3 hours of functional usage (on average) which is supposedly in the realms of completely unacceptable and something no one would ever put up with. And it is well below what people were used to getting previously, where batteries were supposed to power something for days' worth of usage because you had to keep purchasing them.

Well we can have 6-7 hours of talk time on the phone. Whch not for nothing is alot more than i need. THe only time i ever use any where near that amount of time on the phone is when i call my sister up at school and then i normaly spend an hour talking to her and a few hours getting passed around to her friends and bsing with her.

Considering that 7 hours is about how many monthly mins i get that is a really good
 
Can have, I'm sure, but I know almost no one who has phones like that. The one I use dies in 2-3, and I frequently get "sorry, I'll have to call you later, my phone is dying" from people I'm talking to for a while. (Come to think of it, from cordless phones too, which basically everyone uses at home now as well.) The bulkier phones can have larger batteries, but pretty much everyone I know has smaller ones than MINE, which is no great beast itself. :p (Motorola T720 or T730, I forget.) Well, excepting my brother's, who's got a PDA attached. Hehe... (Not sure what his Treo's live-span is, but it sure is sexy! :p )

PSP is, of course, bigger than cell phones and PDA's so we can't be sure what people will expect from it. Then again, we also don't know what it will deliver, so hey. ;)
 
I can't seem to grasp Allard's point about Xbox sales to PS2.He said the reason Sony sold so many consoles was due to the DVD players and no competition for 18 months.Only to a certain extent does this remain true.Sony is a hardware/electronics company.Of course the PS2 had an advantage with its DVD player.No one else had it.I'm sure if the Xbox had launched at the very same time as the PS2,it wouldn't have had it either.It is what Sony does.For instance,if the PS3 launches with a DVD-R,CD-R,etc.,it is still going to have that same advantage if the next Xbox doesn't launch with these same features.

The Xbox's sales are another thing that troubles me.OK,Sony had 18 months to sale the PS2.Fine. Even though Microsoft wasn't there,Saga was.It's not like Sony only had their console on the market by itself.There was still competition with Sony introducing the better product.But,this still doesn't explain Microsoft's sales for the Xbox.When Microsoft launched their console,it was a lot more powerful than the PS2,not to mention it,too, having a DVD player and online service.I can understand their library back then,but what about the library now?With all of these games surrounding the Xbox's power,it hasn't even hit 15 million,and this gen is almost over.I guess what I am trying to say is the PS2's HYPE and NAME should have already died down by now.Why is it that Microsodt had to drop the price on EVERYTHING just to only sell 70,000 more consoles for the first time after three years to a high priced PS2?What is the excuse of the PS2s' DVD player and the competition now since the Xbox is out and running at for throttle? :rolleyes:
 
Ty

Hmm, not so sure 33% is that great of a number. Anyhow we really need more granularity in your data (got a link?) for more accuracy.

As Wazoo mentioned 33% of GBA's userbase is 20 million. So that means around 20 million people over the age of 18 own a GBA/GBA-SP.

The best I could do as far as a link would be to post the relivant graph from E3... but its only a simple bar chart so.. :)
 
Spidermate said:
I can't seem to grasp Allard's point about Xbox sales to PS2.He said the reason Sony sold so many consoles was due to the DVD players and no competition for 18 months.Only to a certain extent does this remain true.Sony is a hardware/electronics company.Of course the PS2 had an advantage with its DVD player.No one else had it.I'm sure if the Xbox had launched at the very same time as the PS2,it wouldn't have had it either.It is what Sony does.For instance,if the PS3 launches with a DVD-R,CD-R,etc.,it is still going to have that same advantage if the next Xbox doesn't launch with these same features.

The Xbox's sales are another thing that troubles me.OK,Sony had 18 months to sale the PS2.Fine. Even though Microsoft wasn't there,Saga was.It's not like Sony only had their console on the market by itself.There was still competition with Sony introducing the better product.But,this still doesn't explain Microsoft's sales for the Xbox.When Microsoft launched their console,it was a lot more powerful than the PS2,not to mention it,too, having a DVD player and online service.I can understand their library back then,but what about the library now?With all of these games surrounding the Xbox's power,it hasn't even hit 15 million,and this gen is almost over.I guess what I am trying to say is the PS2's HYPE and NAME should have already died down by now.Why is it that Microsodt had to drop the price on EVERYTHING just to only sell 70,000 more consoles for the first time after three years to a high priced PS2?What is the excuse of the PS2s' DVD player and the competition now since the Xbox is out and running at for throttle? :rolleyes:

Why? PS2 has a wider library of games and generally better content (dev support). When the Xbox came out it was the only console I didn't pick up on release becasue of the lack of games (even worst IMO than the PS2). In fact I bought it [Xbox] for MechAssult and didn't get another game for ages.

Only recently there are more decent games for the Xbox, but its too little too late. For MS to do better next gen, it needs quality content like it does now. Otherwise most like myself will wait for the games to come before spending on the console.
 
Oh come on, while I do believe xbox's launch(and halo) were overhyped, halo alone makes xbox's launch better than ps2's first 6 months.
 
Teasy said:
As Wazoo mentioned 33% of GBA's userbase is 20 million. So that means around 20 million people over the age of 18 own a GBA/GBA-SP.

My bad, I meant as a relative %. There is no doubt that in terms of absolute terms, the GBA (heck, pretty much all of Nintendo's handhelds) have been absolute smashes. I'm speaking about relative adoption in other age groups.
 
Fox5 said:
Oh come on, while I do believe xbox's launch(and halo) were overhyped, halo alone makes xbox's launch better than ps2's first 6 months.

If you like FPS games with a Controller :)

For some people i think the DVD playback would be considered more killer than Halo.

Makes you wonder why Microsoft decided to charge extra for their DVD playback?
 
This might not be indicative, but most of the people i've seen playing with a GBA on the bus/tube/whatever were over 18s. Of course all the kids might have the thing at home, and their parents might be forcing them not to take it out... I'm sure there will be a lot of grown-ups willing to shed the money for a PSP. I don't think they will be as many as those who can't afford it.
 
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