"AAA" games
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simply titles which ppl must have/play and can motivate consumers to purchase hardware.
AAA although genrally good games are a mixed bag and opinion differ across the board as to how much is down to gamply/graphics/marketing.
example:
HALO, Final FAntasy (insert number here), GTA etc...
AAA although genrally good games are a mixed bag and opinion differ across the board as to how much is down to gamply/graphics/marketing.
example:
HALO, Final FAntasy (insert number here), GTA etc...
"AAA" is more or less a measurement of quality; in the case of AAA, high quality.
A highly enjoyable game for any platform. "Killer app" is when you have a AAA-quality game that will sell. Personally, I don't think that "sales = quality" because a lot of great games, AAA-quality games, get jipped at the marketplace.
A highly enjoyable game for any platform. "Killer app" is when you have a AAA-quality game that will sell. Personally, I don't think that "sales = quality" because a lot of great games, AAA-quality games, get jipped at the marketplace.
It's interesting how people derive the "AAA" grading, but so far i only heard or read from articles/interviews that GT3 and MGS2 are the "AAA" titles.
GTA3 may be very popular and i do not think it falls under the "AAA" rating.
I just feel that there are something extraordinary in the games mentioned that differentiates them from the rest. GT3 has graphics yet to be matched by any other games during its time(maybe even now), it also has or mimic physics that is very realistic, excellent gameplay making very good use of the analog controllers. MGS2 also has excellent graphics during its time, it's realistic (as far as i'm concerned, snake is the only character who climbs stairs most realistically compared to any other game characters
i know it sounds ridiculous, but it shows that the developer pays attention to minor details), dialogues are top-notched. Basically, they are games which tries to exploit and utilise the hardware to the fullest and offers that "oscar" touch.
Would u agree?
GTA3 may be very popular and i do not think it falls under the "AAA" rating.
I just feel that there are something extraordinary in the games mentioned that differentiates them from the rest. GT3 has graphics yet to be matched by any other games during its time(maybe even now), it also has or mimic physics that is very realistic, excellent gameplay making very good use of the analog controllers. MGS2 also has excellent graphics during its time, it's realistic (as far as i'm concerned, snake is the only character who climbs stairs most realistically compared to any other game characters
i know it sounds ridiculous, but it shows that the developer pays attention to minor details), dialogues are top-notched. Basically, they are games which tries to exploit and utilise the hardware to the fullest and offers that "oscar" touch. Would u agree?
Deepak said:Oscars = politics
agreed. any award show is purely driven by politics and PR people, unless they are based on actual sales, which almost never happens anyway.
Yogi said:It's interesting how people derive the "AAA" grading, but so far i only heard or read from articles/interviews that GT3 and MGS2 are the "AAA" titles.
GTA3 may be very popular and i do not think it falls under the "AAA" rating.
I just feel that there are something extraordinary in the games mentioned that differentiates them from the rest. GT3 has graphics yet to be matched by any other games during its time(maybe even now), it also has or mimic physics that is very realistic, excellent gameplay making very good use of the analog controllers. MGS2 also has excellent graphics during its time, it's realistic (as far as i'm concerned, snake is the only character who climbs stairs most realistically compared to any other game characters
Would u agree?
In that case, I would put Jak & Daxter up in that AAA league. Never before have I played the game that felt so much like an interactive disney cartoon, yet gave so much of freedom and control over the characters movement before. Controling Jack over the screen just felt so.... GOOOD!
Technically the game is very impressive, boosting no loading screens and an incredible draw distance throughout the game. The game is short, but one of the games I can just go back to, just to get the enjoyment over walking Jack through the beautiful landscapes and discovering the world.Another game that would deserve that AAA title IMO is Final Fantasy X. The detail of the world, sphira, and all the characters are immense. Perhaps one could argue that it lacks the detail of animation in its gameplay, but that's not really the point in a game like this. The size and scope of the game alone should be enough to raise ones eyebrow in amazement of all the work the developers must have put into. The little details are there too - you'd be hard put not to notice them, especially once you've seen the FMV's.
Never have played ICO myself, but I'm pretty sure many would concider it a AAA titile. I did see a few videos and must say that the work is very impressive. I will definately check this out though - I'd be a fool not to, I suppose.
And yes, I would consider Metal Gear Solid 2 and Gran Turismo 3 of being AAA for the very same reasons. I am also overly confident that their respective sequels will be not any less amazing.
Phil said:Yogi said:It's interesting how people derive the "AAA" grading, but so far i only heard or read from articles/interviews that GT3 and MGS2 are the "AAA" titles.
GTA3 may be very popular and i do not think it falls under the "AAA" rating.
I just feel that there are something extraordinary in the games mentioned that differentiates them from the rest. GT3 has graphics yet to be matched by any other games during its time(maybe even now), it also has or mimic physics that is very realistic, excellent gameplay making very good use of the analog controllers. MGS2 also has excellent graphics during its time, it's realistic (as far as i'm concerned, snake is the only character who climbs stairs most realistically compared to any other game characters
Would u agree?
In that case, I would put Jak & Daxter up in that AAA league. Never before have I played the game that felt so much like an interactive disney cartoon, yet gave so much of freedom and control over the characters movement before. Controling Jack over the screen just felt so.... GOOOD!
Another game that would deserve that AAA title IMO is Final Fantasy X. The detail of the world, sphira, and all the characters are immense. Perhaps one could argue that it lacks the detail of animation in its gameplay, but that's not really the point in a game like this. The size and scope of the game alone should be enough to raise ones eyebrow in amazement of all the work the developers must have put into. The little details are there too - you'd be hard put not to notice them, especially once you've seen the FMV's.
Never have played ICO myself, but I'm pretty sure many would concider it a AAA titile. I did see a few videos and must say that the work is very impressive. I will definately check this out though - I'd be a fool not to, I suppose.
And yes, I would consider Metal Gear Solid 2 and Gran Turismo 3 of being AAA for the very same reasons. I am also overly confident that their respective sequels will be not any less amazing.
u never played ICO???
PLEASE... PLEEEEEEEEEEASE give it a try. i say this for u.
ur gaming life won't be the same after playing this game. every other game will just feel like.... a game....
come on, u can find this game in the second hand bin for like nothing, just give the game a try and u'll be surprised. graphics are only part of this game's beauty. it's by far the most engaging game i've ever played, the only game that made me actually care about the characters and gave me that feeling in your throat when u get all emotional in some instances.
i think, as much as close minded people like to bitch about them, all latest Final Fantasy games should be considered AAA just because of the sheer size and artistic characterisation, although i must say, Square SERIOUSLY needs to get their European conversion right. Next generation, sloppy European conversions won't cut it. come on, development houses with MUCH less money can pull out better PAL conversions, without considering PRO-Scan support which would make wonders with the beauty of PS2 FF games....
hehe, you know what? It's 17:23 now and am about to stop working so I'll check by at the shops to see if ICO is there. If it's platinum, I'll get it (and in english).
BTW; I have only played Final Fantasy VII and X (and fell instantly in love with them). I'll be buying VIII and IX if I get a chance to import them from England (they're all in german overhere). Next to Jak II, my most anticipated game for this year (or next) is undoubtadly Final Fantasy X-2.
EDIT: checked the shops, it's not platinum.
BTW; I have only played Final Fantasy VII and X (and fell instantly in love with them). I'll be buying VIII and IX if I get a chance to import them from England (they're all in german overhere
). Next to Jak II, my most anticipated game for this year (or next) is undoubtadly Final Fantasy X-2. EDIT: checked the shops, it's not platinum.
Phil said:[...]if I get a chance to import them from England (they're all in german overhere
A. UK game imports, free delivery in Europe, http://www.play.com
B. Get ICO full price or rent it, you will enjoy it!
C. Stop whining
ICO's not platinum, but still it's cheaper than most games at least here in england.... just give it a try man, u cannot lose on the single most beautiful experience on PS2... and when u do play it, stop and look at the gorgeous effects used in the game, the water, the light effects, the shadows, the trees... ohhhh those trees... the way light behaves through the trees.... oh god i have to play through this game again
ICO is the kind of game that question the defintion of AAA game.
For some people, a AAA game should drive hardware sales, or at least sell millions of copies, for others it should be a game that get high reviews from every site.
In the first case, ICO does not qualify. it is the kind of game everybody talks but nobody bought for real. So, when you talk about AAA, just define what category you refer.
For me, I vote the ICO/ZELDA/MP category (based on reviews) rather than the GTA/ETM/EA games
For some people, a AAA game should drive hardware sales, or at least sell millions of copies, for others it should be a game that get high reviews from every site.
In the first case, ICO does not qualify. it is the kind of game everybody talks but nobody bought for real. So, when you talk about AAA, just define what category you refer.
For me, I vote the ICO/ZELDA/MP category (based on reviews) rather than the GTA/ETM/EA games
wazoo said:
WHOA!!!!!!!!!! HOW ON EARTH DID ENTER THE MATRIX COME UP ON A THREAD ABOUT AAA GAMES?!?!?!
i dont think sales should matter really, at the end of the day it takes marketing and a big licence to sell loads of games which are not necessarely good. actually, the more marketing a game gets and the bigger the license, the crappier the game turns out to be IN MOST CASES....
Sales of a game are affected by so many things that have NOTHING to do with the actual quality of the game, it shouldnt matter how many copies the game sells to qualify for the AAA title...
the AAA title should go to a game that excels in pretty much every category, from gameplay to sound, from graphics to fun factor and replayability... longevity is another aspect but i think there are many good but short games around that still qualify for that title...
ICO is very short, but that is the beauty of it. its replyability (is that even a word?
) in common terms is none, but for some reason it is the ONLY game that i have played through time and time again, and actually enjoyed it every time...i could not stand to play through MGS2 more than once, i only played through the tank part more than once but thats it...
when a game doesnt tire u out, when a game makes u want to pick it up and play through again and again for no reason, not because of extras or new weapons or gimmicks like that, then u KNOW that is an AAA game. ICO is such a game....
did i mention i love ICO?
Phil said:hehe, you know what? It's 17:23 now and am about to stop working so I'll check by at the shops to see if ICO is there. If it's platinum, I'll get it (and in english).
BTW; I have only played Final Fantasy VII and X (and fell instantly in love with them). I'll be buying VIII and IX if I get a chance to import them from England (they're all in german overhere
EDIT: checked the shops, it's not platinum.
Erm, but don't you speak German (or whatever you crazy Swiss-types are calling it these days?
)ChryZ said:Phil said:[...]if I get a chance to import them from England (they're all in german overhere
A. UK game imports, free delivery in Europe, http://www.play.com
B. Get ICO full price or rent it, you will enjoy it!
C. Stop whining
Or from www.cd-wow.com, GBP 29.9 free world-wide shipping.
http://www5.cd-wow.com/detail_results_3.php?product_code=3839
I bought my Silent Hill 3 and Silent Hill 2 Director's Cut from cd-wow.com.
ChryZ said:
Heh, thanks ChryZ! I'll definately check out the link and might make a few purchases through that shop...
I actually made up my mind about buying it and paying full price, but it seems the game is sold out since months overhere. The sales clerk of the second shop I checked out on my way home even thought it will be very dificult to find ICO as no new shipments are planned as of yet. I am confident though that I will find it eventually, as I know a few shops that should have copy.
The reason for me wanting it platinum though is just me being on a really tight budget lately.. I just got the eyetoy a few days ago.
london-boy said:
I'll make sure I'll have a copy by tomorrow evening. Zurich said:
Heh, yeah I do - but the original language is always better.
Seriously, german is all nice and all, but try watching badly lip synched and badly translated movies in another language and I bet you wouldn't give anything that's not in its native language a second thought! Oh, and thanks maskrider, I'll definately check that site out aswell..
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