600,000 PS3's sold on European launch
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No, because they posted the 23 in the morning 510000 PS3 sold and it just was not phyiscally possible
That was just the then current state of pre-orders, and there's nothing wrong with that figure. I can't remember that ever in history there were less consoles sold on launch-day than pre-ordered, unless there were serious supply constraints that prevented the pre-orders to be filled. Sure, some pre-orders will still not be picked up, but especially with a large percentage being pre-orders with deposits, for each one not picking it up, someone else is just going to buy a console without having a pre-order.
PffffNo, because they posted the 23 in the morning 510000 PS3 sold and it just was not phyiscally possible
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And as usual, fighting over vgchart numbers signals a thread no longer has anything worth discussing left in it.
To end that debate on my side, I'll just explain the preorder value for me. Retailer GAME told us they got 9500 preorders in France and then they made a Presse release with 8000 PS3 sold after 10 days. So preorders are definitely not sales
Topic closed for me .
Anyone know how VGChartz tracks data? I once thought it was just taking press reports and NPD data and "guesstimating". But now when I go to the "Where do VG Charts numbers come from link" on the home page they say this:
So what does that mean, exactly? Are they collecting numbers or are they sampling?
To end that debate on my side, I'll just explain the preorder value for me. Retailer GAME told us they got 9500 preorders in France and then they made a Presse release with 8000 PS3 sold after 10 days. So preorders are definitely not sales
Topic closed for me .
So you feel Sony's numbers are too high, and MS's too low, (based on...) right...Anyway, as mentioned by Arwin, the numbers were based on pre-orders, (which was the best available data) and we know that several countries started selling their PS3 stock before the 23rd.
No, because they posted the 23 in the morning 510000 PS3 sold and it just was not phyiscally possible
Interesting, I wonder how many could have been (effectively) sold BEFORE 23rd - I know play.com shipped theirs a few days before, and then you had a lot of people buying at nidnight.
I'm sure they probably couldn't have sold 510000, but I don't quite know how it's "physically impossible" tho...unless I'm missing something?
thatdude90210
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Not sure this has been posted yet. Here's the latest UK hardware sales, from gamesindustry.biz.
4 months after release, the Wii (still sold out in many places) outsold a console that was released 3 weeks ago. Amazing.
4 months after release, the Wii (still sold out in many places) outsold a console that was released 3 weeks ago. Amazing.
Last week's numbers:
25,000 Wii
17,000 PlayStation 3
11,000 Xbox 360
interesting to see if UK keeps this ratio during the rest of the year.
If these numbers scaled exactly (which of course they won't), Wii would be at 1.3 million after 52 weeks, PS3 at 884,000 and X360 at 572,000.
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Yep. A £180 console outselling a £425 console is definitely amazing... I wonder how amazing PS2 sales are compared to PS3 too? That's even older than 4 month old Wii!
VGCharts.org US sales, compared to official NPD data:
console NPD(end of february) VGCharts percent
Yeah, precise data my a**. They use completely different multipliers for each console. If you want to account for what NPD doesn't count, you should use the same error percentage for them.
console NPD(end of february) VGCharts percent
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PS3 1057K / 1370K +29,6%
Wii 1850K / 2640K +42,7%
X360 5055K / 6040K +19,5%Yeah, precise data my a**. They use completely different multipliers for each console. If you want to account for what NPD doesn't count, you should use the same error percentage for them.
thatdude90210
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Oops, my apologies for bringing that up on a Sony fan thread.Yep. A £180 console outselling a £425 console is definitely amazing... I wonder how amazing PS2 sales are compared to PS3 too? That's even older than 4 month old Wii!
What is the logic behind that? If they are selling at different rates, the error percentage may not be in proportion to the total number sold units. The sources of information for the different consoles may be different as well.
Not that I put much trust in vgcharts.com anyway.
your point would be valid apart from the vgcharts figures are what they believe or know now ie NOT the end of feburary
thus its a comparisson of
NPD = feburary
VGcharts = X april
thus the figures cannot be the same
also vgcharts saiz america's (which i assume includes other places than the USA )
It still can't support such a high difference. Wii selling 40% more then what NPD counts, while X360 only half as much? That's nonsense.
NPD does not have the full numbers, but their methods are the same for all consoles, and thus the sales numbers are comparable. They have to be or it'd be completely useless.
This answer goes for Zed, too. If anything, PS3's sales should be slowing down a lot more then those of the X360, as that's the platform that has a constant flow of new games. January/february for the Xbox was 299/295K, whereas the PS3 had 243/127K.
There is no secret scientific or economic explanation behind this. VGCharts makes the numbers up out of thin air, and they're totally biased on top of that.
Often logic is can't be applied to sales, for example regarding my own personal gamer tastes/logic Wii sales are completely unreasonable, but hey.. it's nonetheless selling like hotcakes
Right... Obviously the fact PS3 is £245 dearer than Wii has nothing whatsoever to do with Wii selling more, and those who'd suggest as much are blinkered fanboys. Maybe you can explain to me why a £180 console outselling a £425 is something amazing, 'coz my Sony-tinted glasses
cool: ) obviously can't see. I'm afraid my lack of balance has me deluding under the misconception that significantly cheaper products tend to outsell expensive competitors.