400 K ps3 in USA, 100 K ps3 in Japan at launch

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n the U.S., about 400,000 PlayStation 3 machines will be available when they go on sale Nov. 17. About 100,000 will be available on the Nov. 11 Japan launch date.

500.000 ps3 at all?
that's huge.. what can it be the problem behind this disaster?
if I remember first they say "accumulating 6 milions of ps3 from june", after "4 milions of ps3", last was "2milions of ps3" now the truth is 0.5 Milions of ps3 at launch?

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/09/06/business/AS_FIN_COM_Japan_Sony_PlayStation.php

(here we are not talking about the delay in europe ND)
 
Wow, I was about to call BS, but apparantly the figures are from Kutaragi himself.

My ebay profits just went through the roof.
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MasterDisaster said:
if I remember first they say "accumulating 6 milions of ps3 from june", after "4 milions of ps3", last was "2milions of ps3" now the truth is 0.5 Milions of ps3 at launch?
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Your writing is hard to understand, but if you're referring to the 2m by the end of the year reported earlier, that's still true. Their new target is just over 2m in the US/Japan by year's end. The day one number is 500k. Which is surprisingly low, and means they'll need to be constantly shipping up to the end of the year to meet the 2m number.
 
Game over man.

Sony has just opened the door for 360 to get an insurmountable lead this Christmas, exactly the way PS2 did against xbox 1.

360's got no supply shortages, wicked second gen games coming up, and a lower price. All MS has to do at this point is execute.

Sony's going to seriously be hurting after this Christmas, and it's all Blu Ray's fault. :oops:
 
Well, I guess this should not come as a surpize, there has been iffy things going on for quite some time. Their TGS show better be the second comming or something...
 
aaaaa00 said:
Game over man.

Sony has just opened the door for 360 to get an insurmountable lead this Christmas, exactly the way PS2 did against xbox 1.

360's got no supply shortages, wicked second gen games coming up, and a lower price. All MS has to do at this point is execute.

Sony's going to seriously be hurting after this Christmas, and it's all Blu Ray's fault. :oops:
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Calling it Game Over is over-dramatic. But nevertheless, the Xbox360 can enjoy an undisturbed Christmas in Europe and a US Christmas which is probably characterized by PS3 supply shortages.
 
MasterDisaster said:
if I remember first they say "accumulating 6 milions of ps3 from june", after "4 milions of ps3", last was "2milions of ps3" now the truth is 0.5 Milions of ps3 at launch?
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Have you read the article to the end? Guess not.
The production problem is causing about a one-month delay that will reduce the company's supply capacity by about a million machines from the original plan, he said.
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hupfinsgack said:
Calling it Game Over is over-dramatic. But nevertheless, the Xbox360 can enjoy an undisturbed Christmas in Europe and a US Christmas which is probably characterized by PS3 supply shortages.
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True, a bit overdramatic. There are still plenty of ways MS can screw it up.
 
aaaaa00 said:
True, a bit overdramatic. There are still plenty of ways MS can screw it up.
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Yes. For instance, the only remotely interesting thing on the 360 for me, being Forza 2 with a proper Force Feedback wheel, is looking to be delayed to about the same time. If that is true, then there really nothing appealing for me to buy this winter.

I am still the kind of guy who would happily buy both consoles, but there does really have to be something I'm genuinely interested in available.

If it is, in the end, true that they are only behind a month, and their capacity should be 1 million per month, then I have some faith in the PS3 being released in March. But then the diode issue has to be resolved - we'll have to wait and see whether it does.
 
500k for launch, 2M for the Year?

Did Kutaragi really say 100k for Japan and 400k for U.S or could that be writers assumptions.. but if they can REALLY produce 1M / month it isn't that bad.

They should have stayed quiet much longer incase of manufaturing problems. E3 was the wrong place to announce dates.
 
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Seeing the huge effect BR has had on the PS3 including delays, a $500-600 pricetag, and now shortages, do you guys feel it's worth the trade off, and does anyone still think MS's decision to stick with DVD was a mistake?
 
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That would mean that the production magically steps up 3 TIMES what's been up till launch..... Not sure how that would happen...

The only reason that would happen is that Sony ARE producing enough consoles, but are holding on to a lot of them in a bid to increase demand. As if they would need to do that.

Another way would be that they start using more fabs in November which can ramp up production.

The other way would be that there won't be 2M PS3 out before the end of the year.
 
scooby_dooby said:
Seeing the huge effect BR has had on the PS3 including delays and now shortages, do you guys feel it's worth the trade off, and does anyone still think MS's decision to stick with DVD was a mistake?
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no, ps3 sticking with dvd? yes
 
scooby_dooby said:
Seeing the huge effect BR has had on the PS3 including delays, a $500-600 pricetag, and now shortages, do you guys feel it's worth the trade off, and does anyone still think MS's decision to stick with DVD was a mistake?
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Oh god... Did you have to ask that question? You know what's gonna happen now, don't you...
 
scooby_dooby said:
Jeez, I though it was a pretty reasonable topic for discussion!
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You're reasonable, yes, but the hundreds of people discussing what's been discusses a million times before wouldn't. You know, how Bluray is needed, how DVD is not big enough, how Bluray is slow, how DVD is too old, how Bluray is a tax...

Don't think we need yet another thread for this...
 
ZiFF said:
They should have stayed quiet much longer incase of manufaturing problems. E3 was the wrong place to announce dates.
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The date was announced in March.

Anyway, with 1 million units reduction, this is essentially one month delay + paper launch in November in the US and Japan, and 4 months delay in EU.

BTW, the "6 million till March 2007" target is unchanged with today's announcement.
 
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I was kind of half expecting PS3 to be delayed throughout the world. I didn't see how they could launch at all because Blu-Ray appeared to be just so dicey/buggy still.

So this tells me Ken is being realistic. He knows quantities will be near zero but he's launching in two markets anyway (which I think is the smart move btw).

This is why I always defended microsoft on simultaneous worldwide launch when many people attacked them for the shortages that resulted. In my opinion it's more important to get the ball rolling than to have a ton available.

Which highlights microsoft's advantage in launching early. Imo it's as much about having a ramped supply chain for the second holiday (competitors first) as it is about the 4-5m they'll have actually sold in their uncontested time at market. Not to mention being that much closer to price drops.

Oh and I wanted to consider microsoft launch quantities. They sold 326k in November US. Probably+10% in Canada. And ended up shipping 1.5 WW by Dec 31, but it didn't even seem like that many. Many of those probably came pretty late in the quarter.

But look at the bright side for Sony..imagine the possible launch drought TV coverage and hype!

I do think people are overreacting. In the grand scheme of things, a 5-6 year console life cycle, is a mere 4 month delay in EU that big a deal? Will we even remember it in 2 years?
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