I'll ignore the personal attacks and just state again that it's ok that Tango got closed as long as MS felt they weren't useful to their business goals after examining data we don't have. I know most people around here aren't ok with that, but I'll sleep fine tonight.
We know what their business goals are because they told us - to knuckle down on Bethesda's big IPs and eschew smaller titles. What we don't understand is how that fits in with what they say is good for GP. What exactly is their plan here? Move away from "boohoo the studio closed" and onto "what the heck are MS doing?" Are MS pulling off a smart business move, or jumping from one strategy to another kinda clueless?I'll ignore the personal attacks and just state again that it's ok that Tango got closed as long as MS felt they weren't useful to their business goals after examining data we don't have.
By this reasoning, you can essentially argue that Xbox CAN NEVER DO WRONG. That anything they do there must be a great reason for it, therefore we cant ever criticize them for anything. You're not really explaining why closing Tango must be a good thing, you're just taking it on faith that it is simply because it happened.I'll ignore the personal attacks and just state again that it's ok that Tango got closed as long as MS felt they weren't useful to their business goals after examining data we don't have. I know most people around here aren't ok with that, but I'll sleep fine tonight.
Lack of investment has not been the cause of any of their problems, though. :/
But studios make a profit. Getting rid of studios means losing money, unless they were bad studios.
What investment? The primary investment needed for GP is content. Getting rid of studios potentially diminishes that, unless MS go 2nd party.
Again, that's a studio problem. MS acquired lots of studios to add content to GP. They've stated as much. So removing studios that you bought for the purpose of creating content surely reduces development of future titles?
Not all studios are bought for creating content; some are bought for the available titles which they already had in production or produced.
I'm not arguing that. I didn't say there MUST be a great reason for it. I'm just not part of the mob bandwagon that thinks all company closures are due to "evil greedy corps". Sometimes there are good reasons for company closures. The outrage culture from people who don't know anything about what's really going on is getting tired. Btw, I didn't go nuts over Sony Helldiver 2 fiasco or Bungie layoffs either. It's all childish temper tantrums as far as I'm concerned.
That's not what a lot of this is. some people are all pitchforks and rage, but a lot is also just people talking about a current event, a perplexing business decision, and trying to make sense of it. People are looking for answers to understand. I'm sure the truth will out eventually, but that might 20 years from now in a book on Xbox Gaming over the years. Until then you've got gamers and journalists and business analysts all wanting to understand and talking about it (as well as a contingent who just like dumping on a particular corporation).
Yep. Not everyone needs be invested in every current event. No-one should be badgered into having an opinion.
Sounds familiar.
that is a massive loss on a huge property.
I just checked Steam and couldn't find their newest AAA releases.
Yea. It wasn’t on game pass nor was it released with PC. And often that gets cited why games flop. Well, explain this then. Biggest franchise exclusive on the biggest console platform.
I think a big thing is the first game just wasn't that amazing, and you NEED to play it before buying and playing the second. That already limits your audience. And so as good as Rebirth might have been, they had an inherently smaller audience for it.
It means a much, much larger chance of purchasing that exclusive, though. People who buy a console will be much more likely to be interested in or even talk themselves into being interested in an exclusive.
Looks like MS was the real villain hereContinuing on from the 2023 version... Hoping that 2024 ends up better than 2023, thus the may not be kind verbiage.
2023 has not been kind to game developers.
Keep in mind this is estimates and not all developers/publishers that are laying off people are announcing how many are being laid off. http://www.videogamelayoffs.com/ An estimated 6500 people have been laid off so far this year. This also doesn't include potential divestitures or...forum.beyond3d.com
Looks like Pirahna Bytes (Gothic, Risen, Elex) might be shut down by Embracer.
And the original source for that article.
Neue Informationen zu Piranha Bytes: Das Studio hinter Gothic und Elex steht offenbar kurz vor der Schließung
Eine offizielle Bestätigung steht nach wie vor aus, aber unsere Quellen legen nahe, dass es Piranha Bytes in Zukunft nicht mehr geben wird. Zumindest...www.gamestar.de
Rumors that Embracer is going to be laying off more people and might be shutting down other studios as it looks like their rash of studio acquisitions is coming back to bite them in the arse with the post Covid downturn in consumer spending.
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