Switch 2 Speculation

[wco81]

Waiting for oled then.

Unless the initial version have yet another flaw to be exploited for cfw

Original Switch was released in early March 2017.

The OLED Switch was released on October 8, 2021.

So more than 4.5 years.

Nintendo probably counting on most people who bought the Switch to feel FOMO and buy it this year, then buy it again whenever they release an OLED update.

 

[Cyan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1880056625953915066

 

[Shifty Geezer]

The same people have been operating Nintendo that long?! Could be huge changes ahead.

 

[Pressure]

The same people have been operating Nintendo that long?! Could be huge changes ahead.

They might even embrace online gaming ...

 

[wco81]

The same people have been operating Nintendo that long?! Could be huge changes ahead.

Did they run Nintendo or set the creative direction of a lot of their biggest games but someone else made the business decisions?

Or did they wield so much power that they effectively made the business decisions as well, such as when to launch new hardware products, the design of those consoles, etc.?

 

[wco81]

Is the Switch 2 the first time Nintendo is naming a console as a numeric sequel?

 

[ILikeFeet]

Did they run Nintendo or set the creative direction of a lot of their biggest games but someone else made the business decisions?

Or did they wield so much power that they effectively made the business decisions as well, such as when to launch new hardware products, the design of those consoles, etc.?

a little of both. Yamauchi was a business-man, Iwata was a programmer, Furukawa was an accountant/marketing/planning lead. on the hardware side, Yokoi was a game producer as well as producer of hardware since the Game and Watcher. recently Koizumi was the producer of the Switch and he was a game producer who worked on Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Mario Galaxy, and more

 

[LiveGamer]

Is the Switch 2 the first time Nintendo is naming a console as a numeric sequel?

Yes will be interesting the reception.

Hopefully Xbox will go to numeric aswell. Xbox 6.

 

[troyan]

Is the Switch 2 the first time Nintendo is naming a console as a numeric sequel?

The "2DS" could the first one, even when it was released years after the 3DS.

 

[Dominik D]

"D" in DS was dual so in a way 3DS was dual+1.

 

[orangpelupa]

Yes will be interesting the reception.

Hopefully Xbox will go to numeric aswell. Xbox 6.

Xbox one series 6


Anyway, I love how huge the 2 is on switch 2.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

The "2DS" could the first one, even when it was released years after the 3DS.

Nah, that was a play on 3D -> 2D display. Wasn't a sequel either.

this is indeed the first time Nintendo has named a new machine or iteration based on the number to signify its the next one.

 

[troyan]

Nah, that was a play on 3D -> 2D display. Wasn't a sequel either.

this is indeed the first time Nintendo has named a new machine or iteration based on the number to signify its the next one.

"2DS" was the 3DS without 3D. So this would have been basically a new DS with a "2" in the name.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

"2DS" was the 3DS without 3D. So this would have been basically a new DS with a "2" in the name.

DS had dual screens so was named for that feature. 3DS was named because it added 3D to the display so they went with 3DS rather than DS2, the sequel. 2DS wasn't a sequel to the 3DS but a cut-down model, replacing the 3D display with a 2D display - 2DS. Hence the numbering was telling you the screen type and wasn't an iterative count of hardware. If you're arguing the 2DS sat between the DS and the 3DS and so was numbered between them, the hardware was a cut-back 3DS and not something novel so it can't be the naming of a sequel platform.

 

[Karamazov]

should have they called it Super Switch ?

 

[Wesker]

should have they called it Super Switch ?

Super Nintendo Switch would've had a nice retro touch

 

[Shifty Geezer]

should have they called it Super Switch ?

Although they've never repeated a naming system either, have they? So they can't use Super again, nor Advanced. I guess a 'something Switch' would sound like an improved version, like a Pro model, where Nintendo are positioning it as a next-gen machine. WiiU failed horribly for confusing consumers over what it was.

 

[Karamazov]

whatever the name in the end, games are what will (or won't) sell the system.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Yeah I’ve seen this before. But without any description of how they sampled this, I didn’t find it helpful. Unless there’s been an update or release on how they got this data?

I don't believe this data either. If you are a child you probably aren't using your own account, you are using one created by your parent. The distribution is probably fairly linear until 24 years old, where it drops off.

It was from Nintendo's Second Quarter Financial Results... 2022, published Nov 5th 2021 : https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/211105e.pdf

They simply say

"This graph shows the age of annual playing users, which is quite varied."

Discussion elsewhere says this data is from the user's given birthday when creating an account, and the spike at 22 years corresponds to the year 2000, which could be minors setting a fake birthday or people being lazy when selecting. I don't imagine most children use their parent's account as I expect most parents to value age-filtering of content.

However, the broad distribution isn't going to be massively in favour of minors against this chart. Certainly Nintendo were happy giving this info to their investors more than once. I can't see reason to think there are vastly more children using Switch than adults against this evidence, despite it not being great, in the complete absence of any evidence to the contrary. There's no evidence even a small majority of Switch users are children, let alone a 'vast majority' making it very much a kids device.

 

[Seanspeed]

whatever the name in the end, games are what will (or won't) sell the system.

People like to place blame for Wii U's failure on the naming and marketing issues and all that, but I dont think that was quite as impactful as people think.

Bigger problems were the two main factors that drive all consoles - games and price. Only one year ahead of the XB1/PS4 releasing, they put out a $350 console that could play a smattering of X360/PS3-era 3rd party titles at roughly the same quality, and an initially kinda weak 1st party lineup of Nintendo games. The little 3rd party support that the system launched with died off within a year, and it took too long before they had any really compelling 1st party games, and even those usually stopped at being 'quite good', but never must-have. And they never dropped the price of the system, not even when it was more or less directly competing with the $400 PS4 and XB1. Not even at the very end.

They could have gotten away with the naming thing had they gotten these more important aspects right. It really wasn't that confusing, especially for anybody who actually looked at the system for a second and saw how different it was from Wii.