NVIDIA discussion [2025]
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That’s the same choice we face for any non essential purchase.
Companies aren’t innocent. They exist to maximize profit and people get mad at them for doing that. Might as well get mad at the sun for shining.
Jan 30th I presume.
Cool. I already find DLSS Balanced to look good in most games at 1440p but the problems become more visible in certain situation vs Quality.
digitalwanderer
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Do you need a 5000 series to use it?
you only need a 50 series for multi frame generation. transformer super resolution, ray reconstruction, and dlaa works on all rtx cards
My understanding is that @ILikeFeet is correct. Only MFA and maybe neural materials are locked to Blackwell. Not sure about neural materials.
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What res monitor you got? I've found it to be way, way more effective at 1440p than on my old 1080p monitor. But even on the 1080p monitor DLAA (native) looked good.
Yea you'd benefit hugely from DLSS, even Quality mode. Though I don't know what the pixel density is like on a huge superwide monitor like that. Seems it's more useful with higher pixel densities.
There's zero life necessity for a halo video card; in fact there's zero life necessity for ANY video card. If prices get too high, people will stop buying them. And do you know what you call a company who makes things too expensive and literally nobody buys their stuff? You call them bankrupt.
NVIDIA is not a charity, nor is AMD, or Intel, or Asus or Gigabyte or ASRock or MSI or... These are for-profit enterprises, and their sole purpose in life is to make money. Here's the cool part: they only make money if people actually buy their stuff! If people stop buying their stuff, then they're all (as a collective) smart enough to figure out either the price or the product is wrong, and sometimes even both. Here's the antithetical version: if it becomes unprofitable to sustain the uppermost echelon of PC performance, then that segment will simply cease to exist.
Yes, I too would like a 5090 to be the same price as a 1080 Ti was eight years ago. What's cool is, 12 billion transistors and 11GB of RAM (the constituent components of a 1080 Ti) are notably cheaper now; I suspect the RTX 5070 is likely to be at least 50% more transistors than the 1080Ti, with another gigabyte of radically faster RAM, running on less power, and costing $150 less (a 22% discount) to boot! Whether you like it or not, whether you realize it or not, you're getting your savings. It just turns out the high end is insanely higher than it ever was, and those sorts of things mean customers are willing to pay more to achieve it.
DegustatoR
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And "RTX Hair" since that requires new geometry primitive which only Blackwell RT cores support.
GTX1080TI used a cut down GP102 with 471mm^2. The 5070 TI for $749 has a cut down GB203 with ~410mm^2. There is not so much difference, especially that nVidia can deliver higher bandwidth with a 256bit memory interface.
NVIDIA has had a fascination with hair for a long time. It's a long standing problem in games, but they're overthinking it. This could easily be solved by making all the characters bald. RTX Bald could run on anything.
DegustatoR
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It is a bit different this time though, and I don't get why they even call it "RTX Hair" at all as it's just a new acceleration primitive for ray tracing. One would think that games may have other geometry suitable to be represented by spheres aside from hair and calling it this way kinda diminish what the feature actually is and capable of.
Yet I didn't even mention the 5070 Ti, did I?
The 1080Ti was $699 MSRP, the 5070 is $549 MSRP. The latter comes with way more than double the transistors, one gigabyte more memory, more than a 50% increase in memory bandwidth, more than double the FP performance (depending on which FP format we're talking about), about 30% more pixel and texel fillrate, while using roughly the same power and a slightly smaller footprint. Best of all for the folks decrying ever-inflating prices, the 5070 comes at a 22% discount compared to the 1080Ti despite spanking it in every measurable way.
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Hehe, you know, I wasn't even gonna go there, but since you mentioned it... https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ says the inflation-adjusted price for a $699 video card in 2017 comes out to near-exactly $899 today. I'm assuming US dollars because, in most ways, the US came out better than most in the big global inflation situation we've had over the past few years. As such, this is a very conservative estimate compared to what our friends and colleagues outside the US have to deal with.
By the math above, the 5070 MSRP is within rounding error of a 40% discount from the 1080 Ti MSRP.
"But cards are so expensive now!" /s
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